Conn Monster Tuba ID?

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:45 pm

I'm sure nobody meant to offend about the limitations of most common bathroom scales. Rick has a good point if you can find two that are about the same. Remember, "absolute" measurement of overall weight is not the issue, but differential weight. So any two scales similar together will be close.

If you can find suitable scales, it does work. That is how I determined the 38K weighs about 35 pounds.

imperialbari · Post by **imperialbari** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:18 pm

Bob Kolada · Post by **Bob Kolada** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:32 pm

IDEA- How putting JUST the horn on the scale (while standing besides it)?

WakinAZ · Post by **WakinAZ** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:33 am

Bob Kolada wrote:IDEA- How putting JUST the horn on the scale (while standing besides it)?

Our Resident Genius has noted that most household scales have a sweet spot of accuracy in the range of human adult weights, not in the weight ranges of even the largest of tubas. This is why they are not legal for trade use, etc.

I see Rick has weighed in on this particular scenario, as well, but Klaus has the answer anyway.

I'm not sure what all the eye rolling is about - just a bunch of dumb ol' tuba players comparing notes. TNFnJ ...

Eric "who has learned a few things during all these wasted hours on TubeNet" L.

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:30 pm

Todd W. White wrote:Thirty is about what I guessed - maybe 35. The packaging for the body alone is around $40 pounds, and that for the bell is around 20, so, all-in-all, it's going to be a heavy shipment.

The last time I shipped a 20J, I used two boxes. That kept both the weight and the size of the boxes down, which greatly increased my shipping options and reduced the price.

Rick "who used rolls of paper towel, still in their packaging, to suspend the tuba inside the box" Denney

imperialbari · Post by **imperialbari** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:10 am

Todd W. White wrote:Excellent idea, Rick!

I'll bet rolls of toilet paper would work, too!

THANKS!

The suspense would be aimed at a lower cultural level. At any rate it would be less handsome.

K

sloan · Post by **sloan** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:10 am

Rick Denney wrote:
Todd W. White wrote:Very funny.

This method presupposes one has a set of scales that can read over 300 pounds, as the combined weight of owner and horn would exceed that.
Put one foot on one set of scales and the other on another set of scales. Stand very still while reading the scales. Add the two numbers together.

Rick "guessing about 32 pounds" Denney

No, no, no....multiply one scale's reading by 2! If that's not right...then you probably aren't standing still enough, and your method won't work, either!

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:10 pm

sloan wrote:No, no, no....multiply one scale's reading by 2! If that's not right...then you probably aren't standing still enough, and your method won't work, either!

No, Ken. You can still bias the weight to one scale or the other by leaning, and do it with sufficient stability not to create a dynamic transfer of weight from one scale to the other. Your method will double the error of any bias, mine will eliminate it.

Think of it this way: Place a stiff beam such that the ends are supported by scales. Then, apply the load one-quarter of the way along the beam from one end. The scale on that end will read higher, but the total weight of the load plus the beam will be the sum of the two scales. With no movement, the readings will be stable, but neither scale will tell the story by itself. Now, think of that beam as your pelvis.

Rick "figuring the movement of eyeballs insufficient to cause the scales to wander" Denney

Tubachin · Post by **Tubachin** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:03 pm

That reminds me of a story that isn't related to tubas...

When I was in Singapore last year, there was a local doctor in a shopping mall examining your posture and looking for potential spinal alignment problems. They had you stand on two separate scales, one foot on each which indicated if your center of gravity is perfectly between your feet (perfect posture) or off to one side (poor posture). I think I have good posture and I don't have any back problems, but the weight difference between the two scales was 7.5 pounds out of a total weight of 165lbs.

I think it would be hard to get exactly half your weight and half of the tuba's weight on each scale.

Matt "who forgot which side is heavier" Chin

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:01 pm

Tubachin wrote:Matt "who forgot which side is heavier" Chin

For the purposes of this thread, it doesn't matter whether or not exactly one-half is on one side or the other. What matters is the total weight: the total weight of the person and the horn together less the total weight of just the person is how much the horn weighs, which is what the OP is trying to figure out.

Donn · Post by **Donn** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:57 pm

iiipopes wrote: For the purposes of this thread, it doesn't matter whether or not exactly one-half is on one side or the other.

Excuse me, but this is a 5 page thread about a Conn 24J. You don't get there by focusing!

imperialbari · Post by **imperialbari** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:59 pm

Donn wrote:
iiipopes wrote: For the purposes of this thread, it doesn't matter whether or not exactly one-half is on one side or the other.
Excuse me, but this is a 5 page thread about a Conn 24J. You don't get there by focusing!

You came down to the point:

Conn 24J tubas are not considered having a very focused sound.

Klaus

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