Solos you can't stand.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:38 pm

Well, I guess if I knew how long, it wouldn't be a coma...

Certainly not 99 years, though

(man, truth IS stranger than fiction!)

did we get to the paternity test part of the show yet?

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:42 pm

windshieldbug wrote:Well, I guess if I knew how long, it wouldn't be a coma...

Certainly not 99 years, though
(man, truth IS stranger than fiction!)

did we get to the paternity test part of the show yet?

Maybe it's not considered a tuba solo in the US because it doesn't start each line with one of these:

tubeast · Post by **tubeast** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:50 pm

Shockwave wrote:

For that reason, "serious" tuba solos are the ones I can't stand, they degrade the instrument to trumpet status.

I do like this approach, although I disagree with it.
So far I still am to meet the tubist who doesnÂ´t ENJOY their role in band, being conscious of the task and (hopefully) the ability to support the whole ensemble. At some times IÂ´m afraid we are showing off our own way, and many times I find myself flexing my muscles musically. Usually this my behavior has been encouraged by those up front waving their stick, so far, and most of the time the repertoire seems to call for it.

I think this is the kind of behavior shockwave attributed to trumpets, just from a different angle.

The thing is, most solo instruments just enhance what they are doing as part of the ensemble when performing a concert.
Now try doing that as a tuba soloist, and you might just as well get on stage in a red swimsuit, covered with brown-pigmented oil.
No one seriously wants to listen to the opening, I donÂ´t know, maybe 40, measures of Rheingold (Yes, the Eb), taken down 2 octaves and played at earth shaking volume in one breath.
Even at original pitch and volume, I think this is harder to do than the "Ride" one opera later, but still IÂ´m afraid an audience wouldnÂ´t really appreciate it.

Things like that, IÂ´m afraid, is whatÂ´s left if the aforementioned "serious" tuba soli are neglected.
IÂ´d like to play elegant, cheerful, touching, at any rate non-bombastic music if I ever were fit to give a recital.

TubaRay · Post by **TubaRay** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:01 pm

tubeast wrote:many times I find myself flexing my muscles musically. Usually this my behavior has been encouraged by those up front waving their stick, so far, and most of the time the repertoire seems to call for it.

I do this all the time. I believe we influnce the musical interpretation of the ensemble much more than most people realize. I seldom rebel against the conductor, mind you, but I do often put musical nuances into things which the entire ensemble tends to pick up on. I suspect they are not usually aware that this ever happened. This makes it even cooler considering the general status tuba players enjoy.

Ah, yes. The games people play....

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:21 pm

Chuck(G) wrote:Maybe it's not considered a tuba solo in the US because it doesn't start each line with one of these:

Albertibass · Post by **Albertibass** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:17 pm

But i thought that a lot of jewish music was minor....

so...They must be evil!

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:28 pm

bloke wrote:

Now, if he was a TUBA player, that glass would have been emptied!

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:50 pm

Beergardenblatter wrote:I guess Hell is in Michigan

When I lived in Michigan I used to go there quite often... pretty nice place, in fact!

And the Michigan weathermen ALWAYS got such a thrill out of saying "It's a cold day in Hell! It's colder in Hell than it is here!"...

Charlie Goodman · Post by **Charlie Goodman** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:06 pm

Haugan wrote:Not being familiar with the "Dogpatch Philharmonic" I'm sure THEY sound "good"?

....whether or not you sound good, I think that comment was kind of juvenile, and I'm seventeen.

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:54 pm

OK Joe, I'll say because I KNOW everyone wants to but doesn't want to offend a great player:

Isn't a Romantic Bass Trombone an oxymoron? I mean, come on, can you see it?

Woman: Oh baby, serenade me with some pedal tones, come on darling, get down there........

Bass Trombone(totally missing the point): Wack (Pedal Bb), SPLLLLLLLLLLLLLAT (Pedal F) WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUmph (Pedal C).......Does that do it for you my dear?

Woman: Do you have any friends who play cello?

Chuck"tongue planted firmly in cheek"Jackson

tubarepair · Post by **tubarepair** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:04 pm

Carnival of Venice - On any instrument.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:08 pm

tubarepair wrote:Carnival of Venice - On any instrument.

Generally, I'd agree with you, but I've always had a perverse desire to her COV played on these:

Albertibass · Post by **Albertibass** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:34 pm

hass anyone said kazoo?

TonyZ · Post by **TonyZ** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:11 am

Solos I can't stand...hmmmm... I guess it's poorly played ones by folks that probably shouldn't have tried anyhow and then blame the piece and/or composer.

finnbogi · Post by **finnbogi** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:01 am

Chuck(G) wrote:I've always had a perverse desire to her COV played on these:

My favourite is PDQ Bach's Pervertimento for bagpipes and string quartet, but I'm sure the bagpipes would do Carnival of Venice justice.

jtuba · Post by **jtuba** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:46 am

bloke wrote:
Beergardenblatter wrote:Well, if it wasn't sarcastic then you're freaky religious weird. God help save us from the satanic tuba players from hell !!!!
Do you mean New York City or San Francisco?

You know, I saw a clip of Dave Gannett from the Grand O'le Opry(sp) and he has serious regrets about that album title, as he is now a man of God. He spoke at length about it with the hosts.

tubathig · Post by **tubathig** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:38 pm

Fractured Mambos, I hope I spelled that right, that is quite possibly the hardest thing that I have ever tried to listen to. I guess the good thing about it is that if you make a mistake no one will know

Ames0325 · Post by **Ames0325** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:33 am

I don't like to hear or play transcriptions of string music on tuba. It just doesn't sound right. For example Air and Bouree although these are both lovely pieces on violin--they ( especially the Bouree) sounds a little hokey everytime I have ever heard it played.

just my two cents...

Amy

TubaRay · Post by **TubaRay** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:29 am

Ames0325 wrote:I don't like to hear or play transcriptions of string music on tuba. It just doesn't sound right. For example Air and Bouree although these are both lovely pieces on violin--they ( especially the Bouree) sounds a little hokey everytime I have ever heard it played.

just my two cents...

Amy

While I would agree that playing string music on tuba presents a challenge, I would offer that whether or not it sounds hokey depends very much on the skill level of the performer. In many instances, it is necessary for us to imitate the style or manner that a good string player would play the piece.