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Question about Franz Windhager (WHF) mouthpiece

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:26 pm
by Yoshi
In their online catalogue in English, it seems WHF has following six backbores with a throat of 8.6mm.

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W6 mixed form; 2/3 convex – 1/3 concave; very
wide bore

E6 very bowl-shaped; very warm, full sound; light
compromises in slotting

D6 slightly bowl-shaped; round, warm sound; open blowing with good slotting

C6 straight ; very direct response with sufficient
tone quality

B6 concave; very direct response; somewhat
more resistance; slight compromise in tonal
quality

S6 mixed form; 1/3 convex – 2/3 concave; narrow bore, nice sound
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But, they seemed to also have F6, H6, J6, and M6 backbores now.

Does anyone know anything about these four backbores?

I tried several mouthpieces for my kaiser type BB tuba (PT50, Rudolf Meinl 0., Giddings Fossi, Giddings Baer CC Original, etc), and I have (for now) settled with a WHF mouthpiece (with a combination of BP10, B/H10, and W6). It works really nice for me, but wondered if I can improve it by switching a backbore.

Re: Question about Franz Windhager (WHF) mouthpiece

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:50 am
by GeoffC_UK

Re: Question about Franz Windhager (WHF) mouthpiece

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:33 am
by Yoshi
Hi, thank you for your comment.

I have looked at their online catalogue below (tuba page is between 33 - 38), and p.38 seems to be the page about their backbore:

https://www.whf-mouthpieces.at/kataloge ... F_Engl.PDF

But, I came across backcores that are not listed on their online catalogue.

So, I have an impression that this online catalogue may not be the most recent one (since they seem to be working on updating their website).

Re: Question about Franz Windhager (WHF) mouthpiece

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:10 am
by hubert
According to the recommendations of Windhager himself (as mentioned on the website of FMB (dealer) in Guetersloh (Germany), you may combine the B/H10 with the shafts D6, E6 and W6. D6 for a more compact sound, E6 for big, voluminous sound and W 6 for voluminous and smooth/velvety sound. I hope my translations from German are correct or at least useful.
Hubert

Re: Question about Franz Windhager (WHF) mouthpiece

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:27 am
by Yoshi
Thank you for your information!

And, I also realized (upon reading your reply) that FMB website has more information in German (which is not always the case in English page).

I purchased mine from FMB website. In FMB website, it said a combination of BP10, B/H10, and W6, as "Daniel Ridder" model. I like this combination, but I thought maybe I could change backbore for better slotting (for me), so will look into direction of E6 and D6.

Re: Question about Franz Windhager (WHF) mouthpiece

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:49 am
by hubert
Yes, you are right. Unfortunately, you only will know for sure by trying. I myself use an E6, but in combination with much smaller cup and rim (nrs. 6) and with a compact CC-tuba.
Hope you will find your "holy grail". Succes!
Hubert