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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:31 pm
by mTaUrBkA
hahaha is that the new super small bore sousa?
Re: Wow a tuba for 56 bucks, i like.
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:37 pm
by Kevin Hendrick
Sam wrote:... is it me or are most sousa a bit.....bulkier.
It's not you -- that
is a small sousa! Probably an Eb, maybe even an F. Looks like it'd be easy to carry, though ...
(when you're looking at the price, don't forget to add the $185 shipping fee)
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:53 pm
by Kevin Miller
A Bydlo sousaphone maybe? Imagine Alan Baer whipping out a sousa to play the Bydlo! I'd pay to see that.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:58 pm
by phoenix
Anyone with less than 100% positive feedback should be a little suspicious
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:55 pm
by ArnoldGottlieb
When I lived in Europe, there were plenty of these instruments for sale at the bazars in Amsterdam. Sold to the same tourists who were buying tied died shirts and harmonica's and thinking nobody had done this before. They were craptacular to say the least. I assumed they were being sold as wall hangings, but I was assured they could be played. I could hardly get a note out of them (not that I'm so good, but I can play one note usually). I try not to be too involved in these things usuallybut this horn from my experience is a heap of trouble, and better described as a heap of something else.......Peace. ASG
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:01 am
by Donn
I have wondered about this outfit. At first it seemed like the chrome plating might be an error in translation, and they're really nickel plated, but this time they're specifically saying it isn't nickel. Why chrome? Is that a good idea, are there going to be a lot of other chrome plated brass instruments out there when this catches on?
Not going to get one, if only for the sake of domestic harmony, but I'd kind of like to know what it sounds like. Supposed to be 14 lbs, .700 bore.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:25 am
by windshieldbug
How 'bout...
"Worldwide 10-day shipping from Bombay, India", but
"All returns must be received within 7 days of auction close"
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:31 am
by BopEuph
Donn wrote:I have wondered about this outfit. At first it seemed like the chrome plating might be an error in translation, and they're really nickel plated, but this time they're specifically saying it isn't nickel. Why chrome? Is that a good idea, are there going to be a lot of other chrome plated brass instruments out there when this catches on?
According to this guy, nickel is a cheap substitute for chrome. That's something I've never heard before!
Nick
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:39 am
by Daryl Fletcher
Well, it says that it's a Bb sousaphone. Could that really be the case, in the key of Bb an octave up from a regular sousaphone? It doesn't look to me like there's quite enough tubing in there for it to be an Eb or even an F.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:54 am
by windshieldbug
Daryl Fletcher wrote:It doesn't look to me like there's quite enough tubing in there for it to be an Eb or even an F.
Ahhhhhhhh, that's presuming that this instrument is
actually playable... and remember, if you're going to return it, you must do so
three days before you get it if
you pay immediately upon "winning" it...
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:06 am
by Daryl Fletcher
windshieldbug wrote:Ahhhhhhhh, that's presuming that this instrument is actually playable...
Well, yes, I have to admit that I'm making quite an assumption about it even being playable in the first place. But if it is indeed playable, I'd still have to say that it's in the key of single Bb.
Actually, having a (playable) sousaphone in that key would be nice for TubaChristmas. I have no idea what else it could possibly be used for.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:29 am
by windshieldbug
Daryl Fletcher wrote:Actually, having a (playable) sousaphone in that key would be nice for TubaChristmas. I have no idea what else it could possibly be used for.
Maybe, if TubaChristmas were in high pitch. Lesseeeee... bumpers for your car (they ARE chrome... ), a nice boat anchor, an interesting "time out" tool for training children, collectable "gag" office gift, something to use those white gloves that your mother-in-law gave you on, TubeNet thread, why the possibilities are endless...
(oh yeah, like those 'pocket trumpets';
not intended for use as a musical instrument... )
Spoonerism
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:31 am
by cheburashka
I think something got lost in the translation. I believe this horn is not in "Bee Flat", but in "Fee Blat", those being the only two sounds you're going to get out of it.
Is this some of that "unbranded junk" I've heard about? I'll wait for the Selman version of it.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:32 am
by tubeast
Oh, it doesn´t take that much creativity to come up with something:
-Key chain
-Earring
-Necklace
-Hula Hoop
-Scaring elephants
-Hearing aid
...
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:36 pm
by Donn
Daryl Fletcher wrote:Well, it says that it's a Bb sousaphone. Could that really be the case, in the key of Bb an octave up from a regular sousaphone? It doesn't look to me like there's quite enough tubing in there for it to be an Eb or even an F.
I think you're right. Assuming the bell is in fact 21 inches,
the tubing looks like 8 or 9 feet, so it is just as described
a Bb (not BBb) instrument.
18mm is a big bore for that, though. What's a Wagner tuba, isn't that a Bb tuba with a wider bore than a euphonium? Maybe the lucky winner can take it to one of our illustrious tuba surgeons and have another valve or two added.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:45 pm
by iiipopes
Have you noticed the shipping costs are more than the horn is worth?
RUN AWAY AND DON'T LOOK BACK!!
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:20 pm
by Daryl Fletcher
Donn wrote: What's a Wagner tuba, isn't that a Bb tuba with a wider bore than a euphonium?
A Wagner tuba is a whole different thing. Wagner tubas are left-handed and generally played by French horn players and with horn mouthpieces.

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:54 pm
by MaryAnn
tubeast wrote:-Scaring elephants
...
I vote for that one....but, really, it's more fun with a french horn! I mean, have you heard a really good Elephant Blaster on a horn? If you stuff your hand far enough up the bell, a good resemblance to an imaginary elephant in heat can be achieved.
However....windshieldbug does keep pointing out the return policy, which I think is downright brilliant. I'll have to remember that one for the next time I want to sell an instrument and not have it come back!!!
MA
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:56 pm
by MaryAnn
Daryl Fletcher wrote:Donn wrote: What's a Wagner tuba, isn't that a Bb tuba with a wider bore than a euphonium?
A Wagner tuba is a whole different thing. Wagner tubas are left-handed and generally played by French horn players and with horn mouthpieces.

Yes, and they are nasty beasties, too; way, WAY out of tune in general, and no reachable bell to put the hand in to fix things. Any horn player with a little flexibility can play one (I've blatted on an Alex at a horn symposium) but many would really rather not.
MA