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Alternative To Lacquer
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:59 am
by Dan Schultz
In a former industry, I used to use a product called Coricone 1700 to seal and preserve non-ferrous metals... IE aluminum, brass, and copper for medical and marine applications. The material is very thin and can be wiped on instead of spraying. The end result is a finish that appears to be raw but doesn't tarnish.. and doesn't have near the thickness of common lacquer. We used it on aluminum as a replacement for anodizing. Does anyone on the forum have any experience using this product on musical instruments?
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:19 am
by windshieldbug
No, but I'd love to hear more, beause I'm one of those "fools" who stripped the lacquer off of my bell because I thought that having 'paint' on it deadened the sound, and swore I could hear a difference... I've got a lot of vintage horns, too, without any finish on them
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:54 am
by Dan Schultz
OK... I've been pondering trying this stuff for a couple of months and have been searching for a local user to sponge a pint or so off of. I finally 'bit the bullet' and purchased a gallon from the manufacturer. By the time the cost of the material, the freight, and the 'hazardous material surcharge' was compiled, I now have about $120 bucks involved in this little experiment. I anyone wants to have a look at the material specifications, you can do so at
http://www.corrotherm.com. I'll post the results here and on my web site as infromation is available.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:17 pm
by scottw
Dan, you might want to re-check that link--it doesn't work. Sounds interesting, though!
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:22 pm
by Donn
Or try
http://www.corrotherm.com/coricone.htm
Interesting. I'm trying Maas Metal Protector - ordered some of their polish on-line, after a lengthy and futile search for it locally, and got a bottle of Metal Protector while I was at it. Probably nowhere near as effective as Coricone, but cheaper and easier to remove. If nothing else, application of this stuff helps clean off the polish residue.
non lacquer finish
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:15 pm
by tubamirum
I have had very nice results with metal wax. I put it on the logo only of a silver plated horn and checked it 6 months later, the difference was very obvious, raw brass the same. metalwax.com
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:29 pm
by Dan Schultz
Sorry... as Donn already pointed out, ... the correct url for the Coricone 1700 company is
http://www.corrotherm.com. Follow the 'Coricone 1700' link on the left of the page. I corrected my original post.
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:07 pm
by Dan Schultz
OK, guys... I purchased a gallon of Coricone 1700. The formulation seems to be the same as the stuff I used in a medical industry 25 years ago to replace anodizing. I've coated a Conn alto sax I just rebuilt. I also finished half of a piece of tubing about 3" long that I am going to carry in my pocket for a couple of weeks to try to get some feel for the durability. I figure if it'll survive clinking around with keys and change and some handling, it ought to be good enough to try on something more important... like a tuba. I'll post again in a couple of weeks.
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:27 pm
by Carroll
Dan,
Is that a 3" piece of tubing in your pocket, or...
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:10 am
by Dan Schultz
bloke wrote:Carroll wrote:Dan,
Is that a 3" piece of tubing in your pocket, or...
nothing...nothing at all...
<img src="
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:24 am
by Kevin Hendrick
TubaTinker wrote:bloke wrote:Carroll wrote:Dan,
Is that a 3" piece of tubing in your pocket, or...
nothing...nothing at all...
<img src="
http://tinypic.com/f3dzir.jpg">
Gentlemen, this is no time to "chicken out" ...
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:48 pm
by Chuck Jackson
I suppose someone is going to go blind if this frivolity continues.....
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:08 pm
by windshieldbug
Chuck Jackson wrote:I suppose someone is going to go blind if this frivolity continues.....
If anyone starts talking about submarines and seamen, I'm outta here!
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:20 pm
by Cowgo
Anyone who lives, or has lived, in Topeka knows this is the truth and not a set up for a bad joke. Sometime this high school football season the Topeka High Trojans will stop the Seaman Vikings at Hummer Park.
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:52 pm
by Chuck Jackson
God have mercy upon our souls........Man the life rafts........Women and Children first..........
Chuck"who should have seen this cummi....er make that coming"Jackson
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:41 pm
by Dan Schultz
Goodness, guys! It's just a 3" long piece of 1/2" brass tubing... nothing to get excited about. I wonder what kind of reaction there would have been if I had said I had a 3"
diameter piece of tubing in my pocket
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:34 pm
by Chuck Jackson
Well, the first question some might have is: Can you cook?
Chuck"who doesn't belong to THAT category but has been a musician LONG enough to know SOMEONE had to ask it"Jackson
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:01 pm
by Tubaryan12
Chuck Jackson wrote:Well, the first question some might have is: Can you cook?
Cook?...he wouldn't even have to work
Tubaryan "there are rich widows everywhere" 12
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:43 pm
by Dan Schultz
Tubaryan12 wrote:"there are rich widows everywhere"
That's no joke!! Our Dixie group often plays for breakfast at some local retirement villages. Most of the time it's 20 old ladies and 2 old men! It just goes to show who's killing who.... doesn't it?!?!
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:38 am
by windshieldbug
TubaTinker wrote: It just goes to show who's killing who.... doesn't it?!?!
Yeah, the gentlemen carrying blackjacks in their pockets!
