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I stumbled across a maker of custom music stands today and thought that the Tuba-Euphonium and Bass clef patterns were very attractive. They are plenty pricey but then again they appear to be quality material and work from a real craftsman. I have no clue who the maker is beyond the web site but I thought I would share the find as I always appreciate fine craftsmanship in this day of age.




Mr Standman:
http://www.misterstandman.com/thestnds.htm

those are absolutely beautiful.

- Pat Stuckemeyer

tubafreaks7 wrote:The top one is absolutely beautiful. Can anyone point out the flaw in the staff stand?
answer:
The two dots are supposed to sandwitch the F line, not the D. Even so, they are still pretty sweet.

Nothing wrong at all with the clef displayed on the lower photo.

It just isn’t a bass clef. Its is a baritone clef.

The baritone clef isn’t much in use any more, if at all.

Klaus

PS:

A table of clefs:

http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary ... clefs.html

bloke wrote:On the treble clef stand, the bottom of the bottom space determines the bottom line of the staff. Perhaps that is what is intended here as well.

The idea of Joe also struck me when seeing Paul S’s lower photo. But as trained in semiotics I take similar signs as expressing the same sort of semantic value. If the uppermost "barline" is only there to secure the stability of the frame, then it should have had a with different from the "real" barlines and/or it should have had some decorative carvings.

To me Joe’s treble clef sample looks like the French Violin clef, which is very much used by alto recorder players, when they want to play music written for the baroque traverso flute.

The French Violin clef is very easy to read, as it is read like the true bass clef. Only the sound comes out two octaves higher.

Still the stands represent nice craftsmanship. But I am not truly convinced, that the maker of the stands can read music himself.

Klaus

Paul S wrote:... I have no clue who the maker is beyond the web site but I thought I would share the find as I always appreciate fine craftsmanship in this day of age ...

Mr Standman:
http://www.misterstandman.com/thestnds.htm

Thank you for the link, Paul -- those are very impressive and beautiful stands.

imperialbari wrote:... A table of clefs:

http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary ... clefs.html

And thanks to you too, Klaus -- interesting page! I've run across some of that information before, but not all of it, and not all in one place. Much appreciated.

bloke wrote:I just think the guy has set himself a limit on the bottom of the backrest on just how low he will allow holes to occur in the backrest.

I tend to agree with your assumption. I even tend to find it a wise decision, when it comes to securing the stability of the back frame.

But as an arranger, you are a trained reader of scores, so I hope that you accept, that I as a person having worked a lot with old music interpret these clefs in another way, than they were supposed to be interpreted by a modern buyer of these stands.

Klaus

imperialbari wrote:

bloke wrote:I just think the guy has set himself a limit on the bottom of the backrest on just how low he will allow holes to occur in the backrest.

I tend to agree with your assumption. I even tend to find it a wise decision, when it comes to securing the stability of the back frame.

...

Klaus

I think that this is the point. I expect that these are meant to be functional stands with some decorative value. They are not meant to be an exact representation of a treble or bass clef, other than in the shape of the clef sign.

I appreciate the workmanship and have been contemplating getting one because it will look nice in my house.