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Read the book and learn for yourself. You might also pick up some other useful information besides how many lungs he had...

http://www.windsongpress.com/books/song ... g_Wind.htm

- Pat Stuckemeyer

Arnold Jacobs had no lungs! He didn't breathe!

brianf wrote:Arnold Jacobs had no lungs! He didn't breathe!

Thanks for clearing that up, Brian. We all know Mr. Jacobs was a legend. He truly was an amazing man.

euphba wrote:uhm, gee thanks. I'm glad we are mature enough to handle a simple question. I give up.

I don't think Pat was being immature by stating you'd be better off reading the book; rather the opposite. Pat, like I, feels that knowledge is better learned on one's own rather than by asking questions and getting answers. If Pat says the answer to the question (whatever it was; you edited your post rather than replying to the thread) is in the book, then not only could you find the answer to the question in the book, but so much more on top of that. I have only skimmed through parts of it myself, but I do plan on reading that book real soon. That book, along with all the recorded masterclasses, is the greatest tool in practice (from what I've read, and I have most, if not all, the recordings). In other words, Pat made a suggestion, and it was unfair to snap like you did.

Nick

His original question was how many lungs Arnold Jacobs had. Sorry if I offended anyone. He had two. But, like many people had health problems that limited his capacity. But, you should read the book - will make you look at the horn "differently."

- Pat Stuckemeyer

UF_pedal_tones wrote:Damage control below:

I obviously said something that offended euphba. I have sent him a pm to offer my apology. But I'd like to clear things up here as well. I was NOT implying in any way that euphba was retarded. My reply, actually, had nothing to do with his question at all. I was making a statement about the way I fell about this book, which I hold in very high esteem. I've bought two copies (lost the first, bought another, lost the second ), and consider it an EXCELLENT resource for everyone. I apologize to anyone who may have found my reply to be offensive.

Anybody who loses the two copies of the same book is retarded.

Rick "who could not resist" Denney

ufoneum wrote:His original question was how many lungs Arnold Jacobs had.

UF_pedal_tones wrote:I obviously said something that offended euphba. I have sent him a pm to offer my apology.

As I recall, he's a she ...

bloke wrote:... Perhaps this diagram (following your comments) may shed some light

<img src="http://tinypic.com/ftd2xl.gif">

Indeed it does -- thanks, Joe! Glad you spotted that ...

Rick Denney wrote: Anybody who loses the two copies of the same book is retarded.

Rick "who could not resist" Denney

I lose my glasses, keys, wallet, several times a day...

OTOH, I keep making new friends, even if they're sometimes the same people....

Chuck(G) wrote:I lose my glasses, keys, wallet, several times a day...

OTOH, I keep making new friends, even if they're sometimes the same people....

What were we talking about?

Rick "who forgot" Denney

Rick Denney wrote:

Chuck(G) wrote:I lose my glasses, keys, wallet, several times a day...

OTOH, I keep making new friends, even if they're sometimes the same people....

What were we talking about?

Rick "who forgot" Denney

The digestive system of cattle?

I have noted that Angus and Jersey cattle seem to believe they are relatives of the tuba as they often will run to the fence when I play outside.

Keeping in line with the original question though, most cattle have two lungs and can produce sounds similar to those I have produced on bad days.

Paul "who thought he should weigh in about Joe's diagrams' Sidey

It's always interesting when someone moooves us to another dimension of our topic. Thanks, Paul!

Chuck(G) wrote:OTOH, I keep making new friends, even if they're sometimes the same people....

I like the new places these people often take me...

After my earlier stray from topic in an attempt at levity, I will try to put us back on track a bit...

This topic is always near to my heart as I have severely diminished lung capacity from severe bouts with Asthmatic bronchitis. For a period of time I was positive I would never play again.

The advice to own and read the Song & WindSong is extremely wise. Other things I would advise highly are to visit with Brian Frederiksen and his web pages at: http://www.windsongpress.com/breathing% ... evices.htm to check out some excellent training tools.

I personally received a Voldyne from my local hospital breathing lab as part of watching my lung capacity closer when I have the flu but it is a good tool to have even if you are not afflicted. I also recommend the purchase of the Inspiron to students and really all players to have on hand if only to keep check that you are doing what you should be doing with your air and buzz.

One little machine that did me a world of good as a trainer is the PowerLung. They are expensive but so are a good set of free weights and other exercise equipment. I am not sure if Windsong carries them but I know WWBW does.



You can set different resistance for both inhalation and exhalation levels as you exercise. I tried one of these first a couple of years ago and within a month noticed that I was singing much longer phrases in my church choir as well as noticing I was being more effective in my air intake. Our lungs are our livelihood and should be exercised just as professional athletes work out.

The second I saw the "Ruminant tract diagram" I knew we were in for contact from "Paul S." In case you don't know, he raises Black Angus beef cattle. Being from Wisconsin, the subject is all too familiar - Yes, cows Dooooo seem to appreciate the tuba..., but so do Canadian Geese (at least as a repast while migrating). I once had my tuba out for a practice session in a field adjacent to Wis.'s "Horicon National Wildlife Refuge" (the country's largest Marsh) within 1/2 hour I was "surrounded" by perhaps 1000+ (no exaggeration) Canada Geese. It was just like a scene from Hitchcock's "The Birds".

I knew Arnold well, he was always amused as well as interested (and fascinated) by my study of the reaction animals had to music, particularly the tuba. Gary Buttery once participated in a study invoving whales and the tuba. Having travelled with the circus at one time, I can personally attest that elephants ALSO have a "thing" for tuba music. Alec Wilder wasn't that far off bass(pun intended).

Zoologists have recently discovered that elephants have the capacity to "hear" sub sonic sounds through their feet, and communicate over great distances by creating sounds too low for even tubaists (I know we think "tubists" is right, but I've been using the former since a 2000 visit to Oxford's English dept. and a talk with their leading etomology/linguistics prof. on the subject) to hear.

I would be interested if others have had interesting/wierd/unexplicable experiences with animal reactions to tubaplaying? I have been "collecting data" for many years on the subject, and hope to publish a paper on in the future. I once told Arnold that having "wildlife" listen to ME play must be a little like ME listening to HIM. He always appreciated a thoughtful compliment.

A friend of mine in college tried to convince me that a low concert C on the tuba warded off mosquitoes. He probably just wanted me look silly trying, but I never really did test this "so-called" theory out.

To,again,digress from the legitimate direction of this thread,I am fascinated to learn that cows and elephants like tubas.
Around here we have dolphins who hang around for hours (unusual) to listen to jam sessions-especially with horns-on the beach. I was sailing alone,one afternoon, when a dolphin popped up next to my boat. I sang him "A Pirate Looks At Forty" and he continued to swim alongside.When I finished the song I couldn't thing of another one that mellow so I sang it all again. He(she) hung in there with me until I finished and when I paused to think of another one,swam away.
My buddy had a dog that loved my guitar playing and kept snuggling in closer and closer until he pinned my right arm where I couldn't play-or he could have been cold.
Went to see another buddy who played sax at a lounge where they had caged birds. The birds loved his sax solos and sang along with great gusto.He was pretty good!

Cud someone tell me what this thread is really about.

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