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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:49 pm
by windshieldbug
CONN CONNSTELLATION 4-valve Euphonium

(Sorry, it's not $300, but then, it's an auction, and the reserve was met... )

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:35 pm
by Lew
SoundMachine wrote:
bloke wrote:Everyone is certain to have an opinion...and the 2950 is not necessarily the most popular version of Willson euphonium...but if you're going to compare that '60's-'70's Conn to any Willson compensating euphonium - at least in regards to cash worth - you're talkin' along the lines of a 1-to-10 ratio.

So a Conn is 1/10 the value of a Willson?

Willsons are 3k+ used. I should find a Conn for $300 then?

That seems a little low.

Where do the Bessons fit in?
The going rate for the Willson new is over $5000, while the typical price for the Conn is between $400-$800 if in good to excellent condition. I expect that you would have trouble finding the Willson for $3000 even used so the 10 to 1 ratio is about right.

Pricewise a Besson, will be around $2000 - $3500 used in excellent condition depending on the model. New Besson Sovereigns will be about a grand less than a Willson (the prices for the 2900 and 2950 are about the same new), while a prestige will cost about the same amount as the Willson.

Which is better is really a matter of personal preference. Many people seem to prefer the new Willson 2900s to the new Bessons, but the older Bessons are often better players. They are both professional quality, compensating euphoniums.

The vast majority of top euphonium players use top action compensating instruments. The Conn is a non-compensating horn, which makes it not a pro horn in today's market. In any case, I would call it a step below the other horns you mentioned, if only because it is non-comp and has a smaller bore, although I love the way mine plays.

Of course what is a professional euphonium player anyway? Other than in the military bands or teaching, there are very limited outlets for professional euphonium playing. Even British brass bands are primarily amateurs, no matter how great they may play.