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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:42 pm
by Z-Tuba Dude
I see that Sheet Music Plus has a TTBB version of it. Should be easy enough to transcribe.

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:44 pm
by BVD Press
knuxie wrote:Having discussed this with Mr. Lauridsen, he has not approved, nor will approve as of yet any arrangement of this piece for low brass.
As a follow up to Ken's email, it is published by:

Peermusic Classical
810 Seventh Ave.
New York,NY10019
Tel: (212) 265-3910
Fax: (212) 489-2465
email: peerclassical@peermusic.com

http://www.peermusicclassical.com/catal ... =&search=y

If you are ineterested in arranging the piece, you could try seeking permission from the publisher.

I don't know this to be a fact in this case, but in many cases an arranger or composer signs his rights away to a publisher when a piece is published. It is then up to the publisher to decide if another version of the piece will be allowed to be arranged and possibly published.

Good luck!

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:47 pm
by Chuck(G)
Why not perform it from the TTBB vocal score? AFAIK, as long as one doesn't actually write an arrangement out, the copyright holder can't dictate what instruments are used to perform it (e.g. oboes and bassoons, violins & celli instead of voice might be other options).

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:17 pm
by prototypedenNIS
Well, maybe he should approve a better tuba part in the Wind Ensemble arrangement...

2 notes... I have to stay on stage, look interested for 3 minutes, then play a Low Bb then an Eb (in the staff) which is in tune but the fluts are a quartertone sharp! Then I have to reaticulate the note 5 times and that's the piece!


bAHHHHH!

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:32 pm
by phoenix
2 notes... I have to stay on stage, look interested for 3 minutes, then play a Low Bb then an Eb (in the staff) which is in tune but the fluts are a quartertone sharp! Then I have to reaticulate the note 5 times and that's the piece!
Those are a couple of the best 2 notes i have ever played. Drop that Eb an octave! It's much more interesting if you lay out on a low Eb. And more fun too! Great piece of music!

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:44 pm
by Charlie Goodman
phoenix wrote:
2 notes... I have to stay on stage, look interested for 3 minutes, then play a Low Bb then an Eb (in the staff) which is in tune but the fluts are a quartertone sharp! Then I have to reaticulate the note 5 times and that's the piece!
Those are a couple of the best 2 notes i have ever played. Drop that Eb an octave! It's much more interesting if you lay out on a low Eb. And more fun too! Great piece of music!
I like it a LOT better with the one in the staff.

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:49 am
by prototypedenNIS
too late, done and over with.
can't say I'm all that interested in doing it again. Then again, I should be used to boring parts by now.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:59 pm
by Steve Marcus
knuxie wrote:Having discussed this with Mr. Lauridsen, he has not approved, nor will approve as of yet any arrangement of this piece for low brass. He never disclosed why...I agree it is a beautiful piece and would sound good by any wind ensemble...I truly hope he allows an arrangement to happen some day.
Ken,

I, too, had written Lauridsen's publisher seeking permission to transcribe his O Magnum Mysterium and Ave Maria for tuba-euph quartet and/or brass quintet, and was politely denied.

I rationalized that perhaps he felt that such instrumental arrangements compromised the sacred nature of the texts.

Then I learned of some of his choral works being performed by wind ensembles.

Perhaps Mr. Lauridsen is reserving the right to arrange/transcribe his own music himself so that it is done to his satisfaction (and profit).

This is not a unique situation. John Williams does not generally allow anyone to transcribe his music, and those few who are authorized (e.g. Steve Sykes) have their finished product carefully scrutinized by John Williams and/or his assistants/editors before he'll grant sanction for publication and performance.

As a choral singer who has loved performing the music of Morton Lauridsen, I sincerely hope that it is made available to brass players to perform and share with their audiences.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:18 pm
by zeman23
Steve Marcus wrote:Perhaps Mr. Lauridsen is reserving the right to arrange/transcribe his own music himself so that it is done to his satisfaction (and profit).
I believe the wind ensemble arrangement was done by H. Robert Reynolds, perhaps for the very reasons you have stated.

-Zack Zeman