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bloke wrote:The "R" suffix meant that it was made by Yamaha. It's basically a YSL-352 stencil.

hey, it has a much cooler counterweight!

It's kinda like my Yamaholtonstein trombone... except the bell was actually made by Holton

Oric wrote:But it still has a Holton counterweight on it- the round thing with the Holton symbol.

Mounting balance weights with just about any company symbol is one of the smallest problems in the craft of building brass instruments. Probably Holton sent a load of their counterweights to a Yamaha plant in the US, where they then were mounted, before the whole assembly cum instrument was returned to the Leblanc/Holton wholesale distribution center.

I may guess, that you are young, and that this is your first encounter with the entity of "stenciling".

Some makers like to be able to deliver a full line of instruments to certain niches of the market. Most notably the school systems at varying levels. As your country is large, not every school is close to a well-assorted music store.

Hence company representatives visit the schools and want to take orders for all sorts and sizes of instruments.

However it is not profitable for every maker cum brand to make all variants of instruments. So they buy them from other makers like Yamaha, which probably is the largest serious maker of brass instruments today. Holton buys from them, and so does Bach.

I am not the biggest fan of Yamaha trombones for my own playing.

But as a brass teacher I was very fond of the YSL-352. It is reliable, responds well, and is easy to play.

It may not win you an audition for a position in a pro orchestra. But it most certainly is worthwhile for the first years of ones life with the trombone, as it doesn’t hinder a fast progress.

Klaus

that's Oreck, not Oric

bloke wrote:

Oric wrote:Well, I don't plan to get into any symphony orchestras on trombone... I play tuba more. I just want to learn trombone for whatever reason comes up.

I was under the impression that you made vacuum cleaners...??

(That Bloke sure doesn't miss much!)

Oric wrote:Klaus- Du er fra Danmark? Jeg tale lidt Dansk. Den er et interessant sprog.

Det danske sprog anses ihvertfald for vanskeligt at lære for udlændinge. Selv nogle danskere lærer det aldrig rigtigt.

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Oric wrote:Klaus- you are from Denmark? I speak a bit of Danish. It is an interesting language.

The Danish language at any rate is considered difficult to learn for foreigners. Even some Danes never get it right.

(My latter statement also might encompass English as a written medium of communication. Until my temporary blindness I wrote Danish at the very highest level in a number of styles including old-fashioned state administration lingo. And I think I wrote English decently.

But coming at least almost back from blindness isn’t easy textually seen, when one is a dyslectic. It is a damned hard fight to line up letters in a legible permutation, when you have almost lost the memory of how words should look properly.

This digression has a double purpose. I most certainly want to encourage my fellow dyslectics. And I want to whip the sloppy ones, who just don’t care, whether they offend their readers and their language.

Every language has its oddities, dialects, and sub-styles. Every language develops considerably even within the lifespan of every single human. But everyone expressing him-/herself has to stick fairly closely to one of these frames of logic to be understood. skipping the respect for upper- and lower-case letters doesn’t represent a such a sort of logic, should i be asked.

Actually it makes it very hard for us dyslectics to decipher the texts.

Of course I am favoured by having done linguistic studies and by being an "old school" person. But my recent eye experiences took me almost back to zero).

Please forgive my digression, which most certainly was inspired by, but not turned against, our young fellow TubeNet’ter, who can express him self well enough in Danish to prove, that he has worked on it).

Klaus,
who as an old teacher easily distinguishes between sloppiness and true dyslexia in at least 5 languages.

bloke wrote:JEG kan ikke skriv en ord i Dansk , men her ovre er et eller andet.

Any reply to you, Joe, is sort of an a digression (fortunately in the right direction).

Either you have access to an American with Danish roots. Brian Frederiksen is one of them, even if he to my knowledge doesn’t neither sing nor wind in Danish. Or there is some application, which I am not aware of.

Quite a few of the siblings of my grandparent’s generation (they were born from 1877 through 1883) went to the US. My maternal grandmother worked in the NY area as a housemaid about 100 years ago, but obviously came back.

I never knew her, as she died in 1929. And after all I am not that old.

But I knew one of her girlfriends also going there. They couldn’t one word of English, when they arrived.

The lady of the house asked my grandma: "Please give Kitty some milk".

So my grandma gave the cat some milk.

The problem was, that Kitty was the baby daughter of the house.

Klaus,
very likely related distantly to quite a number of US citizens named Bjerre, Hansen, Smedegaard, and Sørensen. I have met some of the Hansen’s some 40 years ago.

And tubawise we shouldn’t forget, that August Helleberg was a Dane.

I so miss Victor Borge, one of my heros and another great Dane. The man exuded refinement and classical upbringing but his humor was relentless.

tubatooter1940 wrote:I so miss Victor Borge, one of my heros and another great Dane.

"Blue, fawn, brindle, or chequered?" as VB himself would have asked.



Don’t let them into the White House gardens. Not all of the bushes will survive that kind of being fertilized.

tubatooter1940 wrote:The man exuded refinement and classical upbringing but his humor was relentless.

Yes, refinement and classical upbringing plus relentlessness is the essence of humour.

Klaus