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Baritone horn mouthpieces

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:50 am
by elimia
I'm curious as to what differences in mouthpieces you would use, if any, with a British Baritone Horn (saxhorn), versus the euphonium. It seems that the popular Schilke 51D for euphonium would be inappropriate for a baritone horn. I plan on picking up a baritone horn one day and wonder what new equipment would be required.

It seems like a Bach 6.5 AL would work well on a baritone horn, I recall starting on a 12C on the King baritone/euphonium I started on in 7th grade.

Happy Merry everyone!

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:19 am
by ufoneum
Most euphonium players will use a small shank mouthpiece similar to a tenor trombone sized mouthpiece. The change in timbre of the horn requires something smaller - more compact to get the true nature of the sound across.

You could use a 6.5AL, 12C, something along that line. If you really want a "baritone" mouthpiece, then you could go w/ a 6BS, 7BS Wick, or the Steve Mead line of baritone mouthpieces - SM4B, SM6B.

- Pat Stuckemeyer

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:05 pm
by P.J.
To echo a few of the other posts...I like the Wick 5BS (or 6BS if you are staying sky high)

Incredible difference in the tone that comes out of the horn.

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:21 pm
by cheburashka
I'd imagine that you'd want something significantly shallower than a euphonium mouthpiece to match the tubular bore. I'm not sure how bright they're supposed to be.

I do play a Conn 90G, which is essentially a tubular bore euphonium, almost a British baritone, and it works best with a 6.5 A (not AL) or a Schilke 51B. Anything deeper makes it sound like a plain old euphonium.

Happy Solstice to all!!

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:13 am
by imperialbari
cheburashka wrote: I do play a Conn 90G, which is essentially a tubular bore euphonium, almost a British baritone, and it works best with a 6.5 A (not AL) or a Schilke 51B. Anything deeper makes it sound like a plain old euphonium.
The Conn 90G (I certainly would want one, if the price was righth) is a valved and curled version of the 8H symphonic slide trombone. It is nothing like a British baritone, which has a different leadpipe, a narrower bore (0.516 or 0.519), and which has its conical expansion starting much earlier. Furthermore the baritone bell volume is much larger, even larger than a bass trombone, if you test how mutes fit.

If you want a big mellow and carrying, but still not euphonium-like, sound, I would suggest the DW4AY, which is, what I use myself on the old (1967) sturdily built B&H Imperial. Some players also get good results from the DW4BS. Both suggested mouthpieces take strong embouchures.

V. Bach #3 with an expanded backbore also has worked well for me.

Klaus

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:28 pm
by cheburashka
Ouch! That 90G is at $655.00 now, with a repaired bell throat and five days left on the auction.

Mine was miscategorized and mislabeled.


$35.00 :shock:

It's a nice horn, but not a $655.00 horn.