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plural of euphonium and tuba
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:34 am
by prototypedenNIS
I had posted this elsewhere years ago... lets see what we get here
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:50 am
by tubeast
I´d say forget latin. Euphoniums and tubas (Euphonien und Tuben) are what we play. Both are younger than 170 years. If their inventors lacked the creativity and self-confidence not to choose latin or latin sounding words - well, tough!!
(Although I mockingly refer to "Euphonii" at times)
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:06 am
by SplatterTone
I don't about tuba plural. But plural of euphonium is "euphs".
The thing that bothers me the most is not knowing the correct way to refer to a collection of these instruments. Gaggle? Brace? There are a lot of good choices here:
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/info/faqs/animals/names.htm
The term for locusts might be appropriate for some TubaChristmases; the term for crows might work too.
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:16 am
by finnbogi
Being a scientist, I am used to talking about nuclei, radii and erethrocyti.
Therefore, I tend to use the plural euphonia (as euphonium is a third declension latin noun).
Oddly enough, I normally talk of tubas, not tubae, when discussing piles(!) of them.
Subject? We don't need no stinking subject!
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:20 am
by GC
Referring to the multiple of 'euphonium' as 'euphs' is a euphemism.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:49 pm
by windshieldbug
What is the Plural of "euphonium" and "tuba"?
How can you have a plural of two dissimilar objects? That's like asking "What is the plural of moose and squirrel?"
Therefore, I've got to go with the answer to life, the universe, and everything.
42.
Re: Subject? We don't need no stinking subject!
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:03 pm
by Kevin Hendrick
GC wrote:Referring to the multiple of 'euphonium' as 'euphs' is a euphemism.

By George, I think
euph got it!

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:15 pm
by Dean E
Ask yourself if your tuba is more of a feminine instrument. Or is it masculine? I would follow classic Latin style conventions:
tuba-singular female
tubus-singular male
Probably female, right? Then use:
tubae-plural female, or
tubi-plural male or plural of both genders
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:20 pm
by Chuck(G)
"Euphonium" is a bastard formation--a Latin ending on an otherwise Greek word. We might be better off calling the training tuba a "euphonion". Perhaps the plural would then be "euphonioi".

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:52 pm
by JTJ
I've always hated the word euphonium -- and agree with Chuck's callling it a "bastard," well, "bastard formation." The word reeks of high Victorian wordsmithing, and is so old fashioned it's a joke.
Wish we had another name for it. Wish the word baritone wasn't preempted (among the faithful) for the small bore saxhorn used in brass bands.
So it goes.
John
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:53 pm
by MaryAnn
finnbogi wrote:Being a scientist, I am used to talking about nuclei, radii and erethrocyti.
Therefore, I tend to use the plural euphonia (as euphonium is a third declension latin noun).
Oddly enough, I normally talk of tubas, not tubae, when discussing piles(!) of them.
I's wit you.
MA
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:57 pm
by MaryAnn
Dean E wrote:Ask yourself if your tuba is more of a feminine instrument. Or is it masculine? I would follow classic Latin style conventions:
tuba-singular female
tubus-singular male
Probably female, right? Then use:
tubae-plural female, or
tubi-plural male or plural of both genders
Oh, come on! Tubas are boys; I mean, look at the tubes....look at the valves....do you see anything female-ish on there? I mean, where are the boobies? None! No Where! Maybe they are boys named Sue, but they are boys!
MA
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:08 pm
by windshieldbug
JTJ wrote:Wish we had another name for it. Wish the word baritone wasn't preempted (among the faithful) for the small bore saxhorn used in brass bands.
Tenorium?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:00 pm
by Chuck(G)
windshieldbug wrote:JTJ wrote:Wish we had another name for it. Wish the word baritone wasn't preempted (among the faithful) for the small bore saxhorn used in brass bands.
Tenorium?
Bellasonium?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:03 pm
by windshieldbug
TubaView wrote:perhaps a "shatter of Sousaphones"
a "flock of Tubas"
a "barrel of Euphoniums"
but I ramble....
That's it!!! A "ramble" of tubas!
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:01 pm
by Teubonium
Chuck(G) wrote:"Euphonium" is a bastard formation--

So that's why our euph section is called a bunch of bastards!!

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:05 pm
by TubaRay
Teubonium wrote:Chuck(G) wrote:"Euphonium" is a bastard formation--

So that's why our euph section is called a bunch of bastards!!

I don't think that is the reason.
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:26 pm
by Dean E
MaryAnn wrote:Dean E wrote:Ask yourself if your tuba is more of a feminine instrument. Or is it masculine? I would follow classic Latin style conventions:
tuba-singular female
tubus-singular male
Probably female, right? Then use:
tubae-plural female, or
tubi-plural male or plural of both genders
Oh, come on! Tubas are boys; I mean, look at the tubes....look at the valves....do you see anything female-ish on there? I mean, where are the boobies? None! No Where! Maybe they are boys named Sue, but they are boys!
MA
OK, MaryAnn. I understand your point, and I'll take the bait.
Warmup time, listening and making tone adjustments, digital and mouth techniques, sympathetic harmonics, frequency adjustments, and bore and bell aperture data would be on my list.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:33 pm
by Rick Denney
Yes.
Rick "or, No" Denney
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:52 pm
by P.J.
I'll vote for "euphs" and the UK English "basses"
