PT-88 equivalent?

GC · Post by GC » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:38 pm

Is there a mouthpiece that feels the same as a PT-88 but has a funnel cup for a darker tone? Maybe with a touch more resistance?

quinterbourne · Post by **quinterbourne** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:41 pm

Try PT-50, or PT-48. Also try the "+" and "MEGA" models as well.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:58 pm

I agree with bloke. I can't handle anything larger than a Kelly 18 or a Wick 1. I would look for something in the 33mm range with the funnel cup, rather than looking for a larger diameter cup.

ai698 · Post by **ai698** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:33 am

Try a Rudolf Meinl Tilz RM10. Just a little deeper than a PT88 and a larger backbore.

UDELBR · Post by **UDELBR** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:27 am

ai698 wrote:Try a Rudolf Meinl Tilz RM10. Just a little deeper than a PT88 and a larger backbore.

There's a reason they're so similar; story goes that Maestro Tucci just 'rebranded' Tilz mouthpieces with his own name. A PT88 used to be called a PT10. Here's the chart of equivalences:

PT MPC's
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American Style Models
Pt 30= 3
31 = 12
32 = 2
34 = 21
36 = 1
38 = 1-S
50 = 20

German Style Rounded Cups
60 = 8-S
62 = 8
64 = 9
66 = 19
68 = 7
72 = 25-S
80 = 17
82 = 23
83 = 26
84 = 25
86 = 0
88 = 10
S is for Small

UDELBR · Post by **UDELBR** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:15 pm

The exterior's been different for 10 years or so, and I'm sure he's done some tweaking in the intervening decade.

Still, if you were gonna start your own mouthpiece line, would you be satisfied just using someone else's designs and stamping your name on 'em?

GC · Post by GC » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:30 pm

I've moved to the PT-88 from the RM 10. The Rudy has a distinctly wider cup and less resistance, which gives me trouble in the high register and the extreme pedal register. I can play higher and lower on the PT with better control, but I have an excessively bright sound. That's why I'm looking for a funneled equivalent that doesn't have a wide throat. I do better with a little bit of resistance, and mouthpieces that are too free-blowing cause me to lose what little fat my tone has.

Tubadork · Post by **Tubadork** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:39 pm

you could try the GW Caver, it's the same size as the bayamo (which is close to an 88 ) , but has a smaller backbore and it responds pretty quick. I see that you are in Rome, I'm in Atlanta (Vinnings, NW inside 285) if you want to come by at any point let me know. I have most of the GW MPC's (except the Caver, Diablo and Charuda) and way too many moutpieces here at my place. Send me a PM if you want to come by.
Bill Pritchard