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I was looking up descriptions on some models of euphoniums and I came across two professional compensating horns. apart from the others the key is Bb/F rather than just Bb........... (btw if im right plz dont go into huge explanations )

Does this just mean if you lock down the 4th valve, it puts it into the key of F?

Exactly. A 4-valve compensating euphonium with the 4th valve pressed down might be considered a small 3-valve tuba in F.

But it may not sound as good as F-tuba.

LauriH wrote:But it may not sound as good as F-tuba.

Well, as a practical matter, does a euphonium ever sound as good as a tuba?

XtremeEuph wrote:Does this just mean if you lock down the 4th valve, it puts it into the key of F?

Just like the F trigger on a bass trombone...

without the buzzsaw sound

Chuck(G) wrote:

LauriH wrote:But it may not sound as good as F-tuba.

Well, as a practical matter, does a euphonium ever sound as good as a tuba?

No it doesnt, it always seems to sound better.

XtremeEuph wrote:

Chuck(G) wrote:

LauriH wrote:But it may not sound as good as F-tuba.

Well, as a practical matter, does a euphonium ever sound as good as a tuba?

No it doesnt, it always seems to sound better.

C'mon you guys and girls, it's okay to start out on a toy until you're strong enough to play the real thing.......
Peace,
ASG

ArnoldGottlieb wrote:

XtremeEuph wrote:

Chuck(G) wrote: Well, as a practical matter, does a euphonium ever sound as good as a tuba?

No it doesnt, it always seems to sound better.

C'mon you guys and girls, it's okay to start out on a toy until you're strong enough to play the real thing.......
Peace,
ASG

err watch yer mouth .............Id say the 'toob' uh is more like a breathelizer..........if you dont have the talent you can just blow real hard and make big booming noises. almost like a drummer! (.........jk.........if you were wondering)

XtremeEuph wrote: Does this just mean if you lock down the 4th valve, it puts it into the key of F?

Well... if you want to look at it that way, you can. You can do the same thing with a 4V Eb tuba. You can take the spring out of the 4th valve and use Bb fingerings. ... BUT... who would want to! Usually... adding the extra valve and the associated tubing/crooks makes 'em sound like s**t!

ya i know im not gunna be doing that......lol i was just wondering cuz it said Bb/F...........but wait wouldnt that mean a French horn player could play my euph (assuming they blow properly etc).and read the music? ( i do believe french horns are in the key of F)