Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:31 pm
If you say so, but I would've thought it had to do with the cost of tooling up for the squashed ports and new-style valves...
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:16 am
Really! I guessed wrong.
Re: quiz
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:48 am
What's the source of this information?bloke wrote:answer:http://i1.tinypic.com/v5vn1l.gif
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:07 am
I don't get it. The graphic I see just has some text with a URL in it.
So what was it? I voted for short-action valves.
So what was it? I voted for short-action valves.
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:06 am
I don't get it either...
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:05 pm
It's morse code and it basically says the answer isUncleBeer wrote:I don't get it either...
"the extra time required putting a finish on all of that extra surface area"
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:23 pm
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:10 pm
Really?? This is what I see:Chuck(G) wrote:It's morse codeUncleBeer wrote:I don't get it either...
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:15 pm
BUT, if you actually go there, you get this:
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:22 pm
Nope. Absolutely does not work in Firefox (for me at least). Not even pasting the address in the browser.
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:29 pm
Thanks, but no. This joke's been thoroughly run into the ground.valtuba wrote:First go here:
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:06 pm
Aw, c'mon! Everyone loves a good holiday-egg hunt!UncleBeer wrote:This joke's been thoroughly run into the ground.
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:09 pm
Did someone say hunt??windshieldbug wrote:Aw, c'mon! Everyone loves a good holiday-egg hunt!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:38 pm
You guys better get back to talkin' about tubers or there's gonna be black heliocopters after you!
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:33 pm
bloke wrote:The point simply being that given two similar tuba thingies with similar features but different sizes, the MAIN thing that will make one more expensive than the other is THE COST OF POLISHING (or sandblasting, etc.) THE EXTRA SURFACE AREA.
POLISHING - BY FAR - is the MOST EXPENSIVE FACTOR that goes into manufacturing any brass instrument.
You been buffing sousaphones, Joe?
I don't blame you!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:44 pm
How much does it cost to make a tuba Polish??bloke wrote:THE COST OF POLISHING.
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:58 pm
I can only guess as to Bloke´s objective in posting this "riddle".
Bloke, are you suggesting there will be anothjer Blokeophone in "blunt finish" available for half the price of the original Buescher Helicon cut to CC ???
(which would amount to "only" approximately one leg and a third of a man´s most important organ.... ....the liver )
Bloke, are you suggesting there will be anothjer Blokeophone in "blunt finish" available for half the price of the original Buescher Helicon cut to CC ???
(which would amount to "only" approximately one leg and a third of a man´s most important organ.... ....the liver )
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:58 pm
I'll have to Czech on that ...MartyNeilan wrote:How much does it cost to make a tuba Polish??bloke wrote:THE COST OF POLISHING.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:17 am
The reason the price was higher for the 20K is because people were willing to pay more for them.
The cost may have been higher, too.
Rick "not confusing price and cost" Denney
The cost may have been higher, too.
Rick "not confusing price and cost" Denney
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:29 pm
But as I recall, one of the selling points of the plastic sousaphones was the low price. I suspect that Conn saw a market at a lower price point, and came up with using fiberglass as a way to keep costs below that price point by a large enough margin to make money on them. The "lighter weight" was probably just window dressing--my 14K is all brass and no heavier than many plastic sousaphones.bloke wrote:...but back in the late 1960's/early 1970's, thousands upon thousands of school bands across the United States were literally throwing their brass sousaphones in the trash in favor of brand-new fiberglass sousaphones. This is undeniable. As the fiberglass sousaphones were infinitely more popular than the brass sousaphones at that time, Conn possibly COULD HAVE charged more for the fiberglass versions than they did for the brass versions... ...but they never tried to do so.
I suspect that the dreaded convertible tuba exists because of the same influence. The manufacturers were trying to find a way to market a dual-use instrument. Brass sousaphones have been priced too high for a long time because of high costs. That's an uneniable economic rality: The price must be higher than the cost. If that price is too high, the volume will go way down.
And it isn't always bad business to choose a really low price point even for a popular product. Often, a manufacturer who has really good control over costs will purposely choose a much lower price point than the market would bear just to discourage any potential competition.
Rick "not disputing that some manufacturers are better at making instruments than at the business of selling instruments" Denney