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Why does this sound occur??

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:58 pm
by Water Music
I heard this like a month ago, and Allen Carter (aka pimp daddy kane) said it was my embouchre, but I keep shifting it to keep my corners shut all the way, but when I play below the D right below the staff, I get a weird buzz noise (D and down to D below that, but it stops at pedal C). I thought it might be because of my lips vibrating, but does anybody have any idea about this or has this ever happened to anyone.

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:18 pm
by passion4tuba
isnt pimp daddy kane a rapper?

As for your buzzing noise...alot of times i hear that with 9th grade players who's embrochure is just simply too tight...my guess would be that the buzzing stops at your pedal C because the tension is so much less that it would be at the D right below the staff..this is just one idiot's guess...if this is the cause, then perhaps you should just start buzzing with ur mouthpiece alone...work some lip slurs(slurring throughout your range?)...stuff like that...

i really Hope i was some help... :?


P.S. I did expierence this last year my 9th grade year and previously..the things i just suggested you do i did, and my sound is much ...MUCH better according to many credible players...and the buzzing noise is no more :D

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:43 am
by Water Music
Big Daddy.....I think...I hope I don't get sued over name disputes
:shock:

Thanks, but I do mouthpiece slurs all of the time, bottom of my range to as high as my mouthpiece permits. But I'll try to loosen up a bit.

Re: Why does this sound occur??

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:44 pm
by ken k
Water Music wrote:I heard this like a month ago, and Allen Carter (aka pimp daddy kane) said it was my embouchre, but I keep shifting it to keep my corners shut all the way, but when I play below the D right below the staff, I get a weird buzz noise (D and down to D below that, but it stops at pedal C). I thought it might be because of my lips vibrating, but does anybody have any idea about this or has this ever happened to anyone.
Try buzzing some of the problem notes on the mouthpiece alone. This makes the lip focus in on the exact vibration it needs to do to make the note. It may help eliminate the double buzz bloke mentioned It makes you focus the buzz into the center of your embouchure (sp.? I never could spell that word.) Think "OOO" with the lips to focus the buzz to the center. If you need to cheat a little to get the low notes to buzz, cover the hole at the end of the shank about half way with your pinky. This will provide a little more resistance.

Start by buzzing a long tone on the low d and slowly go down from there. Try to keep a relaxed embouchure.

I know mouthpeice buzzing is a controversional technique because the buzz is not quite the same as you do on the horn due to the change in resistance, but I use it as a tool with students who are having this problem. There is an old computer term GIGO (garbage in garbage out) and it also applies to the embouchure. If you are not buzzing the proper pitch into the horn it will not resonate fully out of the bell.

ken k

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:09 pm
by XtremeEuph
yup, most people here seem to know what theyre talking about :D. As from my experience it is basically bouncing around what they are saying. I tend to get this if I have played for too long and my lips get tired. To hit my higher notes I force myself to tighten up , which creates this buzzy spitting sound............this means I have to stop playing. Basically its a matter of getting your lips in shape and/or healed like Bloke mentioned and remember to try and play every note no matter how high or low, with a relaxed embochure.

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:06 pm
by Water Music
I found the problem!

It seems that my right bottom lip was causing an excess of air into the mouthpiece. It was just air passing throught the vibration. I'm going to try to fix this problem.

Thank you all!