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Hey all, I have a band director interested in euphoniums and was looking for suggestions from me. Im pretty sure the program in the small town is beginning (grades 6-8) so I was thinking about the Yamahas the 201 or even the 321...I really dont know her budget. Any other companies she should really give a shot?

Look seriously at the newer Jupiter line. They are very comparible to the yammies but at a lower price. They also have the removable valve block for easier repairs. I've talked to only one repair guy whose worked with it and he found it very helpful.

yeah but i dont trust those Jupiters, ive heard nothing but good from them (but tons from repair men lol)

The newer ones are much better than the older ones. Most likely not for the pro/semi pro or college student, but an excellent fit for a middle school musician in my opinion.

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I agree that the Jupiters are better than they used to be. The local NCAA Div I university just re-outfitted its marching band with all brand new Jupiter sousaphones.

I also have played an old Yammy 201 with a Schilke 50 mouthpiece and it had just the right resistance and evenness of tone for a middle school player.

My band director recommended the front valve Kings, but this was before King was assimilated by the cyborg. I don't know how they play now.

Ah, for the "good old days," when you couldn't go wrong with a King, Conn, Olds, Reynolds, Holton, or even Blessing, And I probably left out a few, like Martin.

Best to search the archives for other threads for comments.

whats the description of that standard euph?

Yamaha's too pricey here... we have a new Holton that's worth a try, but it's only a 3 valve. We can get Bach/King/Selmer.

If it comes down to Jupiter or Amati, pick jupiter. Not sure if there is a dealer for them here anymore (Jupes)...

We're also ordering a Diplomat Euph that may be a good value... we've been very impressed by the horns we've gotten from them.

I would recommend you consider how durable the horns are going to be, in order to last a long time. These are 6th graders, so they might not take the best care of the horns. I think Werils are one of the best values for the $ for people who take care of them. They aren't the thickest metal, so younger school students might give them a good bashing and probably wouldn't recommend them in this case.

I would suggest Yamaha 201s or the Kings suggested. I played an upright Conn in school, it was fine.

bluemusic1 wrote:You can also never go wrong with the Yamaha 321.

you can if you can get a pro compensating horn for less...
this a bad region for buying Yamaha... monopolized and high prices