YEB 631S

MaryAnn · Post by **MaryAnn** » Mon May 08, 2006 11:44 am

Is this an ergonomic copy of a Besson? (i.e., same wrap/layout)

MA

dwaskew · Post by **dwaskew** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:08 pm

Certainly looks that way to me--

D. Askew

http://www.dillonmusic.com/yamaha_tubas ... tubas.html
Yamaha Tubas

http://www.dillonmusic.com/besson_tubas ... tubas.html

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:56 pm

Yes, and Yammy has a BBb to match.

Alex F · Post by **Alex F** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:58 pm

Mary Ann:

It looks like the 632S is a newer version with the 19" bell. Matt also has a used 631S on the used tubas page. That one has a 17.5" bell. It has been there for a few months now.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:19 pm

631 - 17.5" bell
632 - 19" bell
More indications of Yammy copying Besson.
BTW, I believe the BBb shares the same primary valve block, with only the 4th valve larger bore on the BBb:
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Con ... 00,00.html
and
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Con ... 00,00.html

MaryAnn · Post by **MaryAnn** » Mon May 08, 2006 3:22 pm

Thanks. I already know my arms are not long enough to reach the Besson, so it's not worth plane fare to try the Yam.

MA

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:27 pm

Hey, Belltrouble - With Yammy, you can't go on numbers alone. Look at the letters to see which instrument it is. For BBb, the numbers will start YBB, and for Eb, the numbers will start YEB.

joshwirt · Post by **joshwirt** » Mon May 08, 2006 7:57 pm

If you know that your arms aren't long enough for the 4th on a Besson, I can GUARANTEE they won't reach it on a Yamaha 631/632....that was my only complaint about the Yamaha was the wrap on the 4th puts the valve in an awkward position.

My Miraphone 1261 is closer to the Yamaha in sound and feel, but has a very comfortable 4th valve.....it's also larger in bore than all of the other 3+1 EEb's and I like that a lot!!!

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:18 pm

And then there's me: I simply gave up anything below lowest E as being unnecessary, bought a 3-valve comp that has absolutely perfect intonation all the way across the range. Oh, yeah, my pinky being @ 3 cm shorter than my other fingers may have had something to do with it, also.