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YEB 631S

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:44 am
by MaryAnn
Is this an ergonomic copy of a Besson? (i.e., same wrap/layout)

MA

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:08 pm
by dwaskew

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:56 pm
by iiipopes
Yes, and Yammy has a BBb to match.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:58 pm
by Alex F
Mary Ann:

It looks like the 632S is a newer version with the 19" bell. Matt also has a used 631S on the used tubas page. That one has a 17.5" bell. It has been there for a few months now.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:19 pm
by iiipopes
631 - 17.5" bell
632 - 19" bell
More indications of Yammy copying Besson.
BTW, I believe the BBb shares the same primary valve block, with only the 4th valve larger bore on the BBb:
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Con ... 00,00.html
and
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Con ... 00,00.html

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 3:22 pm
by MaryAnn
Thanks. I already know my arms are not long enough to reach the Besson, so it's not worth plane fare to try the Yam.

MA

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:27 pm
by iiipopes
Hey, Belltrouble - With Yammy, you can't go on numbers alone. Look at the letters to see which instrument it is. For BBb, the numbers will start YBB, and for Eb, the numbers will start YEB.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:57 pm
by joshwirt
If you know that your arms aren't long enough for the 4th on a Besson, I can GUARANTEE they won't reach it on a Yamaha 631/632....that was my only complaint about the Yamaha was the wrap on the 4th puts the valve in an awkward position.

My Miraphone 1261 is closer to the Yamaha in sound and feel, but has a very comfortable 4th valve.....it's also larger in bore than all of the other 3+1 EEb's and I like that a lot!!!

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:18 pm
by iiipopes
And then there's me: I simply gave up anything below lowest E as being unnecessary, bought a 3-valve comp that has absolutely perfect intonation all the way across the range. Oh, yeah, my pinky being @ 3 cm shorter than my other fingers may have had something to do with it, also.