B&S "adjustable" Eb

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Wed May 10, 2006 1:17 pm

Well, according to the superimposition in the photo, not only does it move, but it gets longer, too. (see where the thumb ring is placed in both positions!)

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Wed May 10, 2006 3:32 pm

That's pretty nifty... but I certainly wouldn't buy it for use as a school horn. The kids would have it torn up/lost in less than a semester!

Lew · Post by **Lew** » Wed May 10, 2006 3:43 pm

It seems that this is a horn solving a problem that no longer exists in the US, that is of starting younger players on Eb tubas before moving them "up" to a BBb. I would assume from this that this practice still exists in some parts of the world. It is an interesting solution to the issue of leadpipe positioning, but I wonder what playing tradeoffs result?

I think TubaTinker's comment probably applies to buying any new tuba for school use.

Dean E · Post by **Dean E** » Wed May 10, 2006 3:49 pm

windshieldbug wrote:Well, according to the superimposition in the photo, not only does it move, but it gets longer, too. (see where the thumb ring is placed in both positions!)

The leadpipe is lengthy and appears to connect to the tuning slide, similar to the Eb vintage Conn/Pan American pea-shooter horns.

The technically minded on this forum have been known to denigrate long leadpipes like that because long leadpipes are straight--not tapered.

There are plenty of water keys.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Wed May 10, 2006 4:45 pm

But if it works, they can apply the same principle to bigger horns. After all, lots of people complain about mouthpipe height!

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Wed May 10, 2006 4:54 pm

windshieldbug wrote:But if it works, they can apply the same principle to bigger horns. After all, lots of people complain about mouthpipe height!

If straight-bore tubing works ok... then you could use a piece of garden hose and mount the receiver on a vertical slide... like some of the European showers.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Wed May 10, 2006 6:38 pm

Well, ya know, I'm currently borrowing an ancient Eb from my undergrad college for a couple of small things where my BBb is not blending well. Except for the American style large bell flare, the bend in the leadpipe and the valve block are the same as they have been for @ 100 years. You'd think M-W would have progressed a little! Even the Conn 12J & 14J I linked to earlier in this thread have a short lead pipe!