Red Barn Paint

[Donn]

Would it make the band sound better? It would make us look more authentic I guess.

Probably would not make the band sound better, but that's just a guess. One thing you might think about: Cerveny makes a wide range of these things, from a narrow bore "tenor horn" to a big fat euphonium, and I'm sure there's more difference from one end to the other of that range, than between your Yamaha and its nearest Cerveny equivalent. If that makes any sense. Whether any of them is an especially good fit with your band, maybe you can guess better than we can.

I recently saw a German band that was really just a helikon-bass accordion and an oval euphonium, with the euphonium on the bass line. I understand that's common in parts of Germany and Austria.

Lastly, if you dig way back in the "for sale" section, you'll find a nice looking Cerveny oval euphonium, somewhere in the Midwest I believe. The seller took a bunch of nice pictures but neglected to say what model number it was. Don't know if it sold.

[Chuck(G)]

If you ever read the tuba-euph list on Yahoo! groups, you'll find that Glenn Call really likes the Chinese ovals sold by the eBay seller violinking.

That's a pretty good recommendation.

[Kevin Hendrick]

The online stores seem to only sell the lower end Cerveny ovals.

This one seems to have most of the Cerveny rotary euphs, oval and upright:

http://www.allmusicwarehouse.com/Subcat ... goryId=134

[Donn]

The online stores seem to only sell the lower end Cerveny ovals.

This one seems to have most of the Cerveny rotary euphs, oval and upright:

I count 23 models on the Cerveny web page http://www.amati-denak.cz/english/produ ... oniums.htm, so while these folks do offer a pretty representative sample (a couple of tenor horns on another page up to the .630 bore 5-valve 741-5MR), they do omit more than half of the line.

Of course some of the models Cerveny lists may not be actually in production, for all I know.

[Dean E]

I just threw away half a gallon of "Navajo red" solid color oil base stain.

' sorry!

bloke "Is Tuba, Arizona in or around old Navajo lands?"

I hope that your municipality has a recycling system, and that no red, oil base stain ended up in a landfill.

[Dean E]

I hope that your municipality has a recycling system.

I'm not sure where it ended up, but the main problem around here is a landfill called "the City" - of which (I would estimate) about 80% of its two-legged inhabitants could be considered to be contaminants.

Speaking, once again, of various types of horns, here's a dilemma for you, Dean:

Would you rather drink water that has trickled down through red oil-based stain-impregnated soil, or breathe air that has been processed by the wrong end of these contestants?...

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No problem with methane, Bloke, it's all natural, but the humans can't hold a candle (as in "Light me up, boys!") to all the termites and ruminants on our green earth. Humans can't keep their "end" of the deal regarding processed air.

The big problem with stained soil is remediation and the daily state environmental fines for even a half gallon spill. The environmental engineers will charge $5K for the study alone. And we in the US are environmental softies compared with the Europeans.

Your post reminded me of the two round trips I had to make to the recycling center to get rid of two half-gallon buckets of old paint. The first day, the paint recycler was unstaffed, and the warning signs all over the place cautioned against leaving anything when a human was not around. I used a good two gallons of gasoline to make those two round trips.

Same problem with dry cell batteries.