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I have flown with Lufthansa and although my sousaphone was in a flight case in the cargo bay, my buddy that was with me had his bass trombone in its gig bag and they let him take it in the cabin. They let him put it in a storage closet and it was fine.

Ryan,

I fly, much like you do, often with my horn in just its gig bag, and have never had a problem with it not fitting in the overhead compartment.

You will probably be on a rather large plane since it's an overseas flight, and I have been able to squeeze mine into the bins on a 737 which should be quite a bit smaller than the plane you will be on.

You shouldn't have any problem, but here is another idea that I use on smaller planes. Get a window seat, and put the horn in bow first underneath the seat. Get a blanket and cover up so you can't see the bell between your legs. It's not the most comfortable thing in the world, but it's cheaper than a new leadpipe!

All the best,

- Pat Stuckemeyer

Your communications with the company may improve, if you take the effort to spell their name right.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

Thanks for the spelling lesson I didn't know I was in need of a lesson on that. If you would like to comment or help me in my situation, please comment, if not please do not waste my time by commenting on my spelling of a foreign plane company that won't make much of a difference in the end.

Kind regards,

your spelling bee champ

Why do the EGGHEADS on this forum have to take every chance they can to show how smart They are compared to the rest of us public school graduates .

How about helping Contraeuph out instead of just flapping your gums just becuase you can ? I agree why you Ryan, buddy . The educated dork is wasting your time with his post .

BTW- Contraeuph is working on his DMA at Alabama . I am sure he can spell Lufthansa just fine . Did it ever occur to imperialbari that maybe it was just a typo ? So cut him some slack .

And ...... He studies with one of the greats of our time . He can out euph you anytime imperialbari .

Actually I think that post DID contain valuable information, hidden between the lines:
- if you don´t know the specs of any given item, ask
a) the manufacturer
or
b) the owner of such item, rather than people who may or may not have a potential to make educated guesses as to the measurements of such item.

In BOTH cases it´s a great idea not to produce chuckles on your behalf.

My advice, not between the lines: go ask the Lufthansa people exactly WHAT type of plane they´re likely to schedule for that flight, and if you´ll be able to fit in your horn(s) in there, and especially whether they´ll let you bring two extra pieces of luggage (in addition to the usual one-piece boardcase or bag) in the first place.
After all, you´ll be using up three customers´ worth of storage compartment.

If I ever fly with a horn again I will stuff as much clothing out of my suitcase into the case with the horn as I can and still get the case closed-especially around the bell.

ContraEuph wrote:What I am really worried about is the security through the German airport carrying 2 instruments then the next flight which is to an eastern european country.

Don't worry about security at Frankfurt. It's a fine airport, just a little difficult to navigate through some of the construction. Your trouble may come when you arrive at your eastern European destination. Keep a strong grip on your bags and don't let anyone help you. Many times they are panhandlers that force their way to you and take your bags and then expect money. Be firm and refuse their services. Try and pack what you can lug yourself.

About Lufthansa; their overweight/oversize baggage fees are rediculous. They will weigh your checked bags and assess a fee of 10 Euro per kilo that you are over. I was hit with over 2600 Euro in fees for my tuba and another anvil case with stands, music, and extra stuff. Ouch! They did treat the horns well. I guess we paid for better baggage handling. Nice thought anyway.

Just so you know, "Ryan" should be spelled "Rhíæn"!

imperialbari started it ...

One of the best euphonium players, possibly the best one currently, is very meticulous about his instrument.

He does not leave it out of his eyesight, when he is on one of his several tours around the globe.

Somewhere on the web he wrote how he always had it his way, when he wanted to carry his instrument into the cabin despite strict security rules by some airlines. One of his tricks was politeness and respect.

Any educated European knows why Lufthansa has exactly that name. They also know, that this name carries references to medieval European history.

Anybody knowing about spelling and dyslexia knows that it impossible to repeat the same complex typo 3 times unless it is done on purpose. I know far too much about dyslexia, as I have fought it on a personal basis for 54 years since I started reading and writing.

If a Bulgarian pianist "doesn't take any sh*t", why would one then assume, that a reputed German airline would do so.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre,
who is not a German,
and who is over the hill as a player, so hopefully everybody can outplay me

MBrooke wrote:Ryan,

Stop being a baby. If you actually had a real job you would realize that proper spelling is important. All your doing is showing your ignorance. And that's sad. Maybe you should lay of Imperialbari and figure out what why you're so insecure and then grow up!

Yeah, lay of, and spell correctly.

MBrooke wrote:All your doing is showing your ignorance.

All you're doing...

How's about we lay off the corrections, and corrections of corrections, show some sensitivity to our European brethren, and get on with the subject at hand!

We're tubists, not viola operators!

Yes!
And I have learned that there are three types of people in this world

1. those who can count

2. and those who can't

You could just call the company up and get the info. yourself. That way, you wouldn't get the replies you're not looking for.

Ralph

Settle down, children.

It is so sad, that the original poster does not realise, that my first reply had the form of a helpful suggestion.

What is even more sad, is that the original poster just has ruined any career options within academia as well as within the military. Ignorance may be forgiven, insistent ignorance cannot be forgiven.

I may be an old dyslectic foreigner, but I have managed quite a bit of taxpayers’ money, and I have been on committees hiring fairly high ranking managers and down within school systems.

Nobody is perfect, and that cannot be expected from humans. But no wise applicant stresses the values of his imperfections. One cannot call ones own questions serious, if one does not take the effort to spell the main object of ones question right.

With a little bit of exaggeration I might pose a rhetorical question:

How far would an applicant get in the audition process for a spot in a DC service band, if the application contained this text?:

“No remarks on my rap shiit, so no reason why shouldn’t be allowed for service at the Hwite Mouseâ€

Ghandi once was asked about his opinion on Western Civilisation.

"That would be a good idea!"

If you are the epitome of American youth, I only can say:

"God bless America!"

Nothing less will do.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

imperialbari wrote:What is even more sad, is that the original poster just has ruined any career options within academia as well as within the military.

Oh brother.

Boanerges is a wise man!

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

You guys are crazy. I think both parties are wrong (not on the spelling, I think we know how it's spelled now).

Do I think imperialbari should have pointed out the spelling error? Yes and no. It came off as a little curt, but the point was there: If you're serious about something, have a little respect and know the company. On the other hand, this is a casual forum where spellngi erorrs r comon.

Do I think Contraeuph should have responed the way he should? Yes and no. I think he should have just taken the post for what it was. Advice. As was pointed out, two recommendations were made: to call the company and spell the company name right. Calling the company is a great idea. For point two, see previous paragraph.

In conclusion, chill out yo.

And I hope Imperialbari isn't passing judgement on the youth of america based on contraeuphs posts. I would have dealt with the whole situation a lot differently, but that's me. Maybe I'm crazy.

at lest the voices in my head say i am....