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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:19 pm
by Phil Dawson
You might check earlier threads concerning the heavy wall mouthpieces. Some of us love them and others think that it is all hype. Which ever side you are on they are heavy and sort of a pain to haul. They also can change the balance of the horn when you are playing. At the very least get one in on a trial from one of the dealers that carry them that are listed on this site.
Good luck, Phil
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:30 pm
by SplatterTone
When most makers use the word "Helleburg" to grab a little marketing glory, size-wise it is more likely to be similar to the 120S (the big one), not the smaller 7B -- that is, if it really is patterned after the Conn Helleburg. There is quite a difference in the sizes. If you just want a Helleburg-style mouthpice bigger than the 7B, but not as big as the 120, the Yamaha Canadian Brass mouthpiece would fit that description.
I think the word "Helleburg" gets tossed around quite a bit as a marketing ploy. There is no denying that it sells mouthpieces. The Conn 1792-2 mouthpiece is one of my favorites (the other being the Yamaha 66D4), but I've only found one place that sells it (Giardinelli). Now if Conn had the good sense to give a name, I'm sure dealers would be stocking it right along side the Helleburgs.
I suggest Conn name it the "Tracy Lords" model (no particular reason; we just haven't heard from ol' Tracy in a while). The 66D4, having a deep cup (or maybe Deep Throat) could qualify for a few choice names.
If you like the 7B size, but want a more comfy, cushy rim, try out the 66D4. I like cushy ... I'm such a wuss.
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:12 pm
by Donn
SplatterTone wrote:The Conn 1792-2 mouthpiece is one of my favorites (the other being the Yamaha 66D4), but I've only found one place that sells it (Giardinelli). Now if Conn had the good sense to give a name, I'm sure dealers would be stocking it right along side the Helleburgs.
As they should, since the cup belongs to that distinguished lineage - it looks different and the rim is different, but the cup is very similar. According to an article in
this thread, Conn may have expected it to be welcomed as a replacement for older Helleberg models.
(I'm assuming that 1792-2 is what we know as "2". If not, well, thank heavens I don't have a reputation for knowing what I'm talking about anyway.)