New Miraphone "Norwegian Star" Eb

Oystein Baadsvik · Post by **Oystein Baadsvik** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:16 am

Hi
There should be a chance to try a prototype at ITEC in Hungary. I will also bring it on a US tour in October as well as on the Army conference in Washington late January.
The development is now in it's second year. I used the instrument on several tours last year and I'm very happy with what Miraphones chief designer Christian Niedemaier has achieved. Intonation and agility is better than on any tuba I've played so far. The main issue now is more or less to decide the right size of the body and the bore of the valve system . This is likely to end up slightly smaller than on the last prototype, but nothing is set yet. What we are really working on is adjustments of sound color, to allow the player to add that "Stradivarius flair" to the sound. Even the first prototype was good enough to beat most existing e-flats, but slightly to dark in the sound for my taste. We are also working on improving valve response and speed. (rotary of course..)
I am waiting for the fourth new prototype in the mail (-box?!) next week.
Considering that the design and production of a new body normally takes several months you can imagine the resources put into this project. But then again, Miraphone promised me to build the E-flat of my dreams...

We hope to be able to launch the horn early -05.

Ã˜ystein Baadsvik

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:38 am

Oystein Baadsvik · Post by **Oystein Baadsvik** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:17 pm

Hi
I suggest that you contact Miraphone about price.They usually are very helpful with information.
www.miraphone.de

I honestly don't know yet.

Ã˜ystein Baadsvik

winston · Post by **winston** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 10:45 pm

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:31 pm

winston wrote:Will the new horn be a compensating Eb model?

A compensating rotary??

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:45 am

TubaTinker wrote:
winston wrote:Will the new horn be a compensating Eb model?
A compensating rotary??

Not impossible Dan--the Alex F/CC "double" tuba is more of a compensator than anything.

Oystein Baadsvik · Post by **Oystein Baadsvik** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:22 am

The new E-flat has 5 rotary valves.

Miraphone also makes a 4 valve e-flat with the compensating system.
The British Army just bought these Miraphone tubas along with the similar B-flat.

Ã˜ystein Baadsvik
http://www.baadsvik.com

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:01 pm

Chuck(G) wrote:
TubaTinker wrote:
winston wrote:Will the new horn be a compensating Eb model?
A compensating rotary??
Not impossible Dan--the Alex F/CC "double" tuba is more of a compensator than anything.

Oh. I know, Chuck. I was just ribbing Winston.

winston · Post by **winston** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:52 pm

winston · Post by **winston** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:54 pm

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:03 pm

winston wrote:Haha, what would stop a rotary tuba from being a compensating horn?

From a very technical point of view, I guess anything is possible given enough time and money. What do you thing about this, Chuck?

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:46 pm

TubaTinker wrote:
winston wrote:Haha, what would stop a rotary tuba from being a compensating horn?
From a very technical point of view, I guess anything is possible given enough time and money. What do you thing about this, Chuck?

Alexander used to offer an F/CC, the 166 that was what I'd call a compensator (they'll probably still build one for you).

All 5 valves are double valves (like a double French horn). With the 5th valve not depressed, the instrument fucntions as a normal 4 valve F. When the 5th valve is depressed, the air is first run through the back set of tuning slides and valves, then through the first (F) set.

The result is that additional tubing is added on all tunign slides to bring the pitch of the horn to CC. Note that the F set of slides is still used.

As far as I can see, this is exactly a 5-valve compensating instrument.

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