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Hey,
I'm doing a tuba quartet project that is playing some rock and jazz tunes (up stuff) does anyone have any arrangements of rock stuff?
we would love to have:
Sweet emotion -Aerosmith
No woman no cry- Marley
American woman -can't remember who did that
One (or master of puppets) Metallica
and what ever else you folks might have.
cool, if the arrangements work out there could be some sort of $$ in return.
Bill

A not too optimistic, but all too true consideration:

Find the copyright holders of the wanted songs and ask them whether they have authorized arrangement for tuba-quartet. You then can find the arrangers and buy from them.

It would be financial suicide to make, exchange, and/or perform un-authorized arrangements of music under copyright. And all rock tunes almost by definition of the genre are under copyright. And many of the copyright holders have judicial departments, which I would not want to meet in court.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

imperialbari wrote:
It would be financial suicide to make, exchange, and/or perform un-authorized arrangements of music under copyright. And all rock tunes almost by definition of the genre are under copyright. And many of the copyright holders have judicial departments, which I would not want to meet in court.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

I have heard this before and always wonder about how it works. There must be hundreds and possibly thousands of cover bands who perform Aerosmith songs and a myriad other classic rock/pop songs on any given night. I doubt all or even very many of them have ever received permission to perform these songs. Is it legal for them to perform these songs without permission? Is it possible that it is legal to perform these songs but not to "arrange" them as in actually writing out an arrangement? Just curious......and those of you who are about to suggest I ask a copyright lawyer, save your breath - I'm not THAT curious about it -just curious enough to take 60 seconds to write this post.

Cover bands play all the time and make money without getting rights from the artists. Club owners are supposed to pay their ASCAP and BMI fees for each of the songs performed, so in this case it is the resposnsibility of the club owner to make sure that the rights have been paid for.

BUT, if we were to record them for sale, that would be financial suicide, then we would have to get the rights from the copyright holders. We don't have any plans to do a commercial recording just yet, we are just looking to get out and play in bars and wherever.

Bill

Last I checked the Danish rules, it was OK to record any given piece of music as soon as the original composers, songwriters, or whatever term may apply have recorded the music, then it is free for others to record the music, if the dues via the internationally co-operating organisations like ASCAP are paid.

Most recording companies have standard contracts claiming the publishing rights of the music also in the printed version. I have made commercial recordings, but never were a real part of the industry. However I know, that some fine players in the jazz-pop area have started their own recording companies just to be able to control the publishing of their own music.

There always have been musicians being able to pick up music played by others by just using their ears. Twelve years old Mozart did it in the Sistine Chapel. Cover bands do it all the time.

The rules about getting a pre-authorization for arranging music under copyright appear oddly troublesome. I can only see them as a method of avoiding a circumvention of publishing rights.

And there are a whole lot of circumventions going on. I am not sure I should be too specific on that matter.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

The Guess Who did American Woman FYI!

You'll need a "mechanical license". More info here: http://www.intimateaudio.com/cover_song_quagmire.html

To whit: "Once a song has been commercially released by an artist, that artist's song may be re-recorded and released by anyone who chooses to do so. This holds true, provided that the melody/lyric isn't substantially altered in the "cover" version, and that they pay proper fees/royalties directly to the song's copyright holder."

Don't anyone mention my name! I didn't do it!

The direct payment may go for some countries and maybe in some international relations.

In Denmark the equivalent of ASCAP, KODA, by law is the sole agent for Danish composers and songwriters. KODA never was run by the state, but its monopoly has avoided more problems, than it has caused.

I have worked with KODA in 3 capacities.

As a small time composer and “texterâ€

I played a great tuba-euph arrangement of Bohemian Rhapsody a few years ago. I can't remember who the arranger was unfortunately.

Apocalyptica is a great cello quartet that arranged and recorded several Metallica songs and a few other heavy metal arrangements like Sepultura. If you could get ahold of any of that music, you could probably tweek it a bit for tuba. It's pretty neat.

we had a tuba quartet here called 4play... both tubas have since moved on from the university

Just get the piano music from a local music store and create your own arrangements. It's not difficult with most rock music. Just don't try to publish, sell, or distribute them. You didn't hear it from me. I know notting!