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From what I can tell, if you use a Rudy MPC with a Rudy tuba, it's a match made in heaven. What do you play on now?
Bill

Tubadork wrote:From what I can tell, if you use a Rudy MPC with a Rudy tuba, it's a match made in heaven. Bill

I use the first version of the Schilke 67. For me it gives the right balance of articulation, balance and sound. The RM mouthpiece that came with the horn was just too shallow for my likeing and certainly was no match made in heaven. It is a bowl shape and for me a funnel shape works best with the horn.

I can't play 186's and make them sound worth a damn, so I can't comment. BUT, I have never been a big fan of Rudy tuba's (some are great, but the smaller ones, I don't like {ie the 3/4 and their f tubas}) but I have tried the F's with the rudy mpc's and it works so much better than what I'm usually playing (some sort of helleberg style mpc.)
Bill

What key is the horn in?

I used a PT65 on my 4/4 rotor Rudolf Meinl before I sold it.

I use a Conn Geib on my present piston Rudolf Meinl.

A bowl shaped cup works better for me than a funnel shape on both of these instruments but YMMV.

A Clements "Orchestra" MP works pretty good on my Rudy 5/4 CC that I actually got from Tony Clements. The MP has a flat narrow rim. Tone starts quickly.

Bowl shaped mouthpiece? Start with a standard: Bach 18

A Rudolf Meinl RM-1 mouthpiece, much like the old Perantucci 1, is a Helleberg-style mouthpiece that works quite well with the 4/4 Rudolf Meinl CC or BBb, if you're looking for a Helleberg-style mouthpiece. I happen to like the RM-10, which has very nearly the same rim, but is a bit deeper with a bowl at the bottom. The larger mouthpiece will darken the sound for a large ensemble and may be fine for general playing if you have large, at least fairly strong chops. The RM-1 will give more of a really focused, cleaner and less-dark sound, ideal for smaller ensemble playing or solo work ( you don't HAVE to play an F for solo work ;^)

Unless specified otherwise, I would expect Rudolf Meinl to provide an RM-1 or RM-2 mouthpiece with his new 4/4 CC or BBb tubas, the RM-2 being slightly smaller. The 5/4 Rudi is a completely different animal from the 4/4, and would not necessarily benefit from the same mouthpiece, or style thereof - ditto with the F tubas, that almost universally play their best with the RM-9, either with the 7.8mm or 8.0mm backbores.

Lee Stofer wrote:A Rudolf Meinl RM-1 mouthpiece, much like the old Perantucci 1, is a Helleberg-style mouthpiece that works quite well with the 4/4 Rudolf Meinl CC or BBb, if you're looking for a Helleberg-style mouthpiece. I happen to like the RM-10, which has very nearly the same rim, but is a bit deeper with a bowl at the bottom. The larger mouthpiece will darken the sound for a large ensemble and may be fine for general playing if you have large, at least fairly strong chops. The RM-1 will give more of a really focused, cleaner and less-dark sound, ideal for smaller ensemble playing or solo work ( you don't HAVE to play an F for solo work ;^)

Unless specified otherwise, I would expect Rudolf Meinl to provide an RM-1 or RM-2 mouthpiece with his new 4/4 CC or BBb tubas, the RM-2 being slightly smaller. The 5/4 Rudi is a completely different animal from the 4/4, and would not necessarily benefit from the same mouthpiece, or style thereof - ditto with the F tubas, that almost universally play their best with the RM-9, either with the 7.8mm or 8.0mm backbores.

Lee,

Is it possible that the RM-1 has changed over time?

I've got one that came with my horn (4/4 BBb) in 1975 and it is a shallow bowl shape. I'm going to dig it out and look at it again. Back then I bought a Schilke 67 which I still use (on it's 3rd replate) and works well for me.