somthing like a helleburg...

tubatom91 · Post by **tubatom91** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:12 pm

I like the feel and tone of the helleburg i'm using but I was wondering what other mouthpieces are similiar

p.s. dont ask the model of the helleburg it just says helleburg on it

TubaRay · Post by **TubaRay** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:55 pm

If you like the Helleberg, then what exactly are you looking for?

By the way, if Wayne has six of them, you might wonder why he would purchase that many if they are only "OK."

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:43 pm

Wick 1L
Various PT models
GW Bayamo, Caver & Taku
Schilke 66 & 67 (as well as their direct take on it: H & HII)
Griego XD (various cup diameters)
Various Bruno Tilz
Mike Finn 3 & 3H
Some of the Deeper Marcs, like H1 and the Rose
Loud LM7 & LM3
SSH

Probably others, that's all I can think of right now.

tubaguy9 · Post by **tubaguy9** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:48 pm

Yeah, a Taku is simmilar to the Helleburg...just a lot more dense, so it plays louder.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:43 am

iiipopes wrote:Wick 1L
Various PT models
GW Bayamo, Caver & Taku
Schilke 66 & 67 (as well as their direct take on it: H & HII)
Griego XD (various cup diameters)
Various Bruno Tilz
Mike Finn 3 & 3H
Some of the Deeper Marcs, like H1 and the Rose
Loud LM7 & LM3
SSH

Probably others, that's all I can think of right now.

Is there any mouthpiece maker who didn't make a version of the Helleberg?

(My favorite's an old 3-piece Giardinelli).

pulseczar · Post by **pulseczar** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:57 am

Almost every mpc manufacturer will have a line of mouthpieces that mimic the characteristics of a Helleberg ie sharp rim and/or funnel shape.

tubatom91 · Post by **tubatom91** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:04 am

I dont really like the kellyburg that I bought it rattles when I play on it in a concert situation. I think I might go with a con-helleburg gold plated 7B

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:35 am

schlepporello wrote:Bach?

Do they even count as a separate entity from Conn/King/Selmer etc.? In any case, their in-stock offerings are down to a paltry 5: 7, 12, 18, 22 and 24AW. Everything else is special-order.

Even Faxx offers a Helleberg.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:29 am

Chuck(G) wrote:
schlepporello wrote:Bach?
Do they even count as a separate entity from Conn/King/Selmer etc.? In any case, their in-stock offerings are down to a paltry 5: 7, 12, 18, 22 and 24AW. Everything else is special-order.

Even Faxx offers a Helleberg.

Wow! I didn't even know they HAD anything that wasn't a 22 or 24AW!

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:21 pm

tubatom91 wrote:I dont really like the kellyburg that I bought it rattles when I play on it in a concert situation. I think I might go with a con-helleburg gold plated 7B

Wrap a piece of golfer's lead tape around it where the bowl meets the shank. It worked for me on my Kelly 18.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:25 pm

Chuck(G) wrote:
iiipopes wrote:Wick 1L
Various PT models
GW Bayamo, Caver & Taku
Schilke 66 & 67 (as well as their direct take on it: H & HII)
Griego XD (various cup diameters)
Various Bruno Tilz
Mike Finn 3 & 3H
Some of the Deeper Marcs, like H1 and the Rose
Loud LM7 & LM3
SSH

Probably others, that's all I can think of right now.
Is there any mouthpiece maker who didn't make a version of the Helleberg?

(My favorite's an old 3-piece Giardinelli).

Bach. I just gathered together a few so he could go directly without having to wade through all the descriptions at the various websites.

tubatom91 · Post by **tubatom91** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:22 pm

I think i'm ordering the 7B tomorrow

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:16 pm

tubatom91 wrote:I think i'm ordering the 7B tomorrow

I don't know if money's important to you but these folks offer a very nice copy of the Schilke Helleberg and the H II, as well as the Miraphone C4:

http://www.atkinsonhorns.com/

tubatom91 · Post by **tubatom91** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:24 pm

i already have a helleburg 120 (schlicke) and a real mirafone C4

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:12 am

If you want a 7B, two of them just came up on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Two-Conn-Hellberg-7 ... dZViewItem

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:26 am

Bob1062 wrote:Why does a company that makes french horns make tuba mouthpieces, and only mouthpieces, too?

They've got a large CNC machine shop operation (they make rotary valves, screwbell flanges and all sorts of other trinkets, including horn mouthpieces and bells. They've also got a complete plating shop.

A machine sitting idle represents lost revenue--why not make some tuba mouthpieces also?

They're nice folks and their mouthpieces are nicely done--and a heckuva deal.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:22 pm

Bob1062 wrote:Why does a company that makes french horns make tuba mouthpieces, and only mouthpieces, too?

Appeasement, since their bells point back at us? Go figure!

tubatom91 · Post by **tubatom91** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:06 pm

7B is in the mail

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