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does it come in a b bflat version if it doesn't would it be better to just get the trombone version and take down the octave??

Yes, it does, but the trombone down an octave works just fine, too (that's the way I did it)

Or get the cornet version, save some money, and use trumpet fingerings on any key tuba.

Chuck(G) wrote:use trumpet fingerings

... but then you have to walk up to people and say,"I can play better than you!".

hmm.. i use the trumpet book.. maybe thats why i've felt the need to lift weights every time i want to increase my range.

I've never seen a complete tuba version of arbans....and the trombone one doesn't have the duets.....so, trumpet is best i suppose....

where can i find it
i havne't found it yet
i think??

most music stores have it....I mean, they do call it the "bible"

Maybe search for the right name? The guy's name is Arban not arbanS

When people use an 's', its possesive, ie: Arban's Method

windshieldbug wrote:When people use an 's', its possesive, ie: Arban's Method

...and I am VERY possesive about my Arban's!

I do, however agree with Wes Jacobs' assertion that younger players particularly should be reading the actual notes they are playing. I still wish they wouldn't have transposed it. Not many beginners play CC tuba.

TonyZ wrote:I do, however agree with Wes Jacobs' assertion that younger players particularly should be reading the actual notes they are playing. I still wish they wouldn't have transposed it. Not many beginners play CC tuba.

??? The treble clef book is in Bb already!

Correct, but for example, exercise 11 in the original is in Eb concert (F Major for trumpet,) but the tuba Arban's (no. 11 also) is in F concert. They transposed it up a step so that it better fits GENERALLY with the CC tuba. They simply transposed the trumpet book down 2 octaves from written pitch, so it is sounding a step higher than the trumpet (the octave displacement being understood.) My grump is why didn't they leave it at concert pitch. Simply, it becomes more CC tuba friendly. Some of the early exercises end up in G concert, which isn't typically where youngsters on BBb tubas play. Not that they shouldn't, but it doesn't fit with most beginning curricula.

Clear as mud, eh?

TonyZ wrote: Clear as mud, eh?

No, you described it well, here. I used the Cornet and the Trombone books, and have never even seen the tuba. I just assumed it was an octave drop from the Trombone. It does seem strange...

So, you want it in a different key? Transpose it yourself. That way you get transposition exercise and experience along with the playing.

iiipopes wrote:So, you want it in a different key? Transpose it yourself. That way you get transposition exercise and experience along with the playing.

Again, correct, for the advanced player. For the beginner, however, it doesn't wash. Arban's is a lifelong learning adventure. Transposing from day one is not practical.

TonyZ wrote:Again, correct, for the advanced player. For the beginner, however, it doesn't wash. Arban's is a lifelong learning adventure. Transposing from day one is not practical.

Maybe, maybe not. My wife teaches beginners on flute. She'll have the young 'uns come to a lesson with a song they know well and ask them to play it in several keys. (no written music is involved) It seems that transposing isn't terribly hard if taught early on.

My wife thinks that it also encourages one to think about the "shape" of a melody rather than how it's fingered on an instrument.

Scooby Tuba wrote:Yet another flute/tuba household!

Don't knock it! After years of waltzing to gigs with her flute, my wife has become tuba roadie extrordinairre (to my eternal gratitude!)

G-A-S-P I am all over buying that, mine is ancient so I don't get the duets...