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I vaguely remember that there is a software package out there that will generate intonation charts. Does anyone know where I can find it?

Mark wrote:I vaguely remember that there is a software package out there that will generate intonation charts. Does anyone know where I can find it?

SPECTROGRAM: This sw will give on a computer screen an audio-visual representation of the harmonic spectrum of a sound received via a mic coupled to the computer. This is freeware on the net.

DonnieMac wrote:

Mark wrote:I vaguely remember that there is a software package out there that will generate intonation charts. Does anyone know where I can find it?

SPECTROGRAM: This sw will give on a computer screen an audio-visual representation of the harmonic spectrum of a sound received via a mic coupled to the computer. This is freeware on the net.

This isn't exactly what I had in mind. There was a software package where you could play each note in your instrument's range and it would produce a chart showing how many cents each note was flat or sharp.

You might want to check out this site to see if any of these were what you had in mind

http://www.lancs.ac.uk/users/music/research/sware.html

Do let us know when you find it...sounds interesting

I like the tuner, friend and a notebook idea best. Then you don't have to keep looking off, and you get more accurate results because you are not risking distortion of the embouchure trying to graph while playing.

Intonation Trainer version 1.02 by Coda Music Technology. You can play the notes in any order and it will print out a chromatic chart showing the tendencies of the horn. The only draw backs are that it considers the lowest note on the horn as the low E, 3 leger lines down. I believe this was because it was developed for school use and the assumption was that the player would only have 3 valves to work with.

Other than that, it's great. Comes with a microphone and a foot switch to lock in the note the way you are playing it at that moment. We used to carry it and it was $129.00.

Roger

iiipopes wrote:I like the tuner, friend and a notebook idea best. Then you don't have to keep looking off, and you get more accurate results because you are not risking distortion of the embouchure trying to graph while playing.

I guess I'm becoming part of a new generation gap, and I'm only 44. I just received an email asking what brand of notebook I use, meaning computer. I meant notebook, as in paper, 8 1/2 X 11, 3-ring bound, with the software being a soft #2 lead pencil with a good eraser to correct mistakes and not only record results in data form but to draw my own graphs. Or does anybody teach children in school what real notetaking and graph drawing is about anymore?

Intonation Trainer

Yes, this is what I was thinking of. Unfortunately, it appears to be "out-of-print".

iiipopes wrote: Or does anybody teach children in school what real notetaking and graph drawing is about anymore?

Not for quite some time I think. I remember having to buy my daughter a mandatory graphing calculator when she was in high school. She's 30 now.

OTOH, I remember having to do standard deviations on a mechanical rotary calculator in college. It took hours to enter all the data and the process was very error prone. That's something even Excel can do effortlessly now. There wasn't much benefit to doing it manually. Just repetitive grunt work, really.

Now, if I could just figure out how to do email with a quill dipped in homemade ink.

But your point is still valid, really.

Jim "some of the good old days weren't all that good" Wagner

lgb&dtuba wrote:OTOH, I remember having to do standard deviations on a mechanical rotary calculator in college. It took hours to enter all the data and the process was very error prone. That's something even Excel can do effortlessly now. There wasn't much benefit to doing it manually. Just repetitive grunt work, really.

It taught one to be very careful.

I learned programming back in the days of legibly filling out coding forms, turning the forms over for keypunching, listing the card images on an IBM 407, making numerous corrections, then submitting the job for, at best, two runs in a work day.

You learned to be very thorough.

Chuck(G) wrote:

lgb&dtuba wrote:OTOH, I remember having to do standard deviations on a mechanical rotary calculator in college. It took hours to enter all the data and the process was very error prone. That's something even Excel can do effortlessly now. There wasn't much benefit to doing it manually. Just repetitive grunt work, really.

It taught one to be very careful.

I learned programming back in the days of legibly filling out coding forms, turning the forms over for keypunching, listing the card images on an IBM 407, making numerous corrections, then submitting the job for, at best, two runs in a work day.

You learned to be very thorough.

Same here. Had to learn to wire 407 plug boards before being allowed near the real iron But today I have several orders of magnitude more power on this computer I'm typing on than than any mainframes I programmed up to the mid '90's and more storage capacity on my key chain than whole mainframe disk arrays up through the mid 80's.

At least my tuba didn't get obsolete.

lgb&dtuba wrote: But today I have several orders of magnitude more power on this computer I'm typing on than than any mainframes I programmed up to the mid '90's and more storage capacity on my key chain than whole mainframe disk arrays up through the mid 80's.

In the early 70's, I worked on what was supposedly the fastest computer in the world. A huge pipelined vector machine, requiring in excess of 250 KVA to run, not including the 100 tons or so of air conditioning required.

Maximum main storage was an amazing half-megaword of core. Given that a word was 64 bits, that translates today to 4 MB of memory.

Times change.

Yes, it is incredible that you can now purchase, for around a grand, a home computer that has more computing power than the computers in the Apollo Command Modules and Lunar Modules.