Leather Wrapping around the horn
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Instead of using just normal leather, you have to use a kind of treated leather...can't remember what it's treated with, sorry...I've had some of these made for my horn a while back. A guy in our studio makes them for euphs for like 10 bucks. You just have to have them treated to where it won't eat away at the silver finish. I'm not sure what it would do to lacquer.
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Re: Leather Wrapping around the horn
One of the euphonium players I associate with likes to wrap parts of his horns with cord. He buys the cord at craft stores. The treatment looks like what I've seen on some older European horns. No patterns... no muss... no fuss. Just wrap it on.tonytuba02 wrote:I am interested in wrapping parts of my horn in leather, ....
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The chemicals used to "tan" leather can eat away at silver plate and raw brass. It is best to use something like naugahide (ie, fake leather).cc_tuba_guy wrote:
Damage to lacquer (spelling??) or silver?
Also, what should one use instead of leather?
I have no idea what it does to lacquer.
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line the leather
Leather will last far longer than other materials out there as well as feel and smell better with an added touch of class. The secret is to line the inside of the leather cover with a soft velvet or felt that wraps around the edges.Tom wrote:
The chemicals used to "tan" leather can eat away at silver plate and raw brass. It is best to use something like naugahide (ie, fake leather).
I have no idea what it does to lacquer.
This is what is done on the the professional quality leather valve guards you see on high end trumpets/cornets and on the leather hand holds on expensive French horns.
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Re: Leather Wrapping around the horn
I would think that wrapping ANYTHING around a horn would have some affect on the timbre.... just as heavy lacquer does as opposed to raw brass.schlepporello wrote:Would wrapping parts of a tuba with cord have an affect on the sound?TubaTinker wrote:One of the euphonium players I associate with likes to wrap parts of his horns with cord. He buys the cord at craft stores. The treatment looks like what I've seen on some older European horns. No patterns... no muss... no fuss. Just wrap it on.
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Re: Leather Wrapping around the horn
Maybe I am missing something but I have always wondered if having your your arm wrapped around the horn, your hand gripped on a slide or your thighs supporting the bow would affect the timbre far more than a protective wrap or lacquer...TubaTinker wrote: I would think that wrapping ANYTHING around a horn would have some affect on the timbre.... just as heavy lacquer does as opposed to raw brass.
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Re: Leather Wrapping around the horn
You are correct. However.... some things, like holding the horn, must be accepted as 'normal'. In my opinion, those things as are considered necessary or normal are considered as characteristic to the horn. Adding protective pads, half covers, heavy valve caps, extra braces, etc. are another argument. Even if you had two identical horns.... one wrapped and one not.... or one lacquered and one raw... there are still enough variances in the horns themselves to make a difference (with or without the wrap or lacquer). Soooo... this is one of those things that can be argued forever with no concise answer other than 'yes it can make a difference'.Paul S wrote:Maybe I am missing something but I have always wondered if having your your arm wrapped around the horn, your hand gripped on a slide or your thighs supporting the bow would affect the timbre far more than a protective wrap or lacquer...TubaTinker wrote: I would think that wrapping ANYTHING around a horn would have some affect on the timbre.... just as heavy lacquer does as opposed to raw brass.
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