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Tuba water key History question....

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:23 pm
by Bondejohnson
Does anyone know when the water key/spit valve became standard option on brass instruments - specifically the tuba. I am trying to date an old Bauer tuba from Markneukirchen. Since that area of Germany has been making musical instruments for a billion years it has been difficult to put a year/decade with the horn.

Bonde

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:34 am
by Lee Stofer
Judging from instruments that have come through my shop, Cerveny tubas had water keys by or before 1894, Wurlitzer tubas had water keys by the 1880's, and I have seen Civil War-era instruments with water keys.

The keys on a keyed bugle were for pitch purposes, not water keys.

I would suspect that the tuba player in Berlioz' orchestra, shortly after having an F tuba gurgling with condensation in an exposed passage in rehearsal, had a water key added, if it did not have one to start with ;^)

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:58 am
by Rick F
I suspect it was invented by a brass instrument maker who saw all those twirling horns and didn't want anyone dropping their tubas emptying the condensation.

tongue placed firmly in cheek :roll:

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:43 pm
by windshieldbug
The ophicleide that I used actually had one in the "bocal" (no kidding) and several along the length of the instrument (kidding)

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:47 pm
by iiipopes
:twisted:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:00 am
by The Big Ben
I just e-mailed Denis Wedgwood about availabilty and will report back what he says.

Jeff