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Hey,
getzen made the CB50, but they don't make it anymore. You can find them used. There is even one here available:
viewtopic.php?t=18315&highlight=getzen

Miraphone 184 is a good 5 valve 3/4 CC

Kanstul is working on a 5 valve 3/4 CC, Scott Mendoker will be playing it at the conference. You can contact Lee Stofer about it:
http://www.tubameister.com/

I think that is all that is out there. There are also a handful of 4 valve 3/4 CC's

like the yamaha 621CC, old conn 3J's weril makes a small CC (BBC has one used).

Good luck,
Bill

Rudolph Meinl makes a 3/4 CC 5 valve that's a great horn.

. . . keeping in mind that what Rudy Meinl calls a 3/4 is what most other makers call a 4/4 . . .

circus "saving his back with a 184" boy

Don't forget the Mirafone 185!

The Yamaha 621 CC tuba is small and nimble. Some players have had a fifth valve added by a repairman, so it looks like their 621 F 5-valve tuba. Cost of the additional valve is in the vicinity of $1000. I have heard speculation that Yamaha wants to keep this tuba light, and not weigh it down with the extra metal for a fifth valve.

The Rudy 3/4 CC tuba is the same size as everyone else's 4/4 tuba. And, their 5/4 BBb and CC tubas are the same size as everyone else's 6/4 tubas. Now you know the correction factor to be added to Rudy's sizing.

Cheers,
Allen

Once again, there IS a 5-valve, 3/4 CC tuba. The new Kanstul CTU902/5C is enroute East at this moment, to be displayed at Ft. Myer, VA next week. It was shown at the Winter NAMM Show in Anaheim yesterday, where it was well-received. The show model has a screw-bell, so it can be stowed in two flat cases, a high-tech new rotor, and modular construction for ease of manufacturing, maintenance and repairs.

For years, I played a Rudolf Meinl 3/4 CC, but it is a 3/4 tuba in the same way that Texas is an average-sized State (!) I like big small tubas.

I would not really consider the Cerveny Piggy model to be a 3/4 tuba, but a large-ish 4/4 that is really compactly-wrapped. I understand that Mirafone is still making the 184, but do not know the availability or price of one. It is a shame that Getzen discontinued the G-50/CB-50, but they cannot be expected to continue to produce an instrument that is not sufficiently profitable for them. Alexander has made a smaller 5-valve CC that plays well, but they are seldom seen.

I still hold that the best determination of what x/4 size a tuba is is best determined by "how much water would this sucker hold"?By that test the Getzen,though short,is every bit a 4/4.Of course this isn't an exact science,but anything with that big a bell just can't be the same species as a 621 or 184.I would definitely add the conn 2j to the mix(the 3j could be debated).Its great to have so many tubas of today and yesteryear to pick from

184 defined this market, and continues to be the benchmark IMHO

Winsheildbug wrote, "184 defined this market, and continues to be the benchmark IMHO"

I'm with you, although mine is a BBb. I keep buying horns to replace the old rag but I always sell them and go back to the 184. The last casualty was very nice 621. Nice enough horn, but not a 184. My old Ernst David is really a cool horn as well but makes me work too hard.