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I was one of a small number of people invited to the unveiling of Jupiter's new XO professional instruments Thursday night at the NAMM show. This concert featured the Boston Brass and Dirty Dozen Brass Band on Jupiter instruments. A great concert highlighted by Andrew Hitz recreating Jaco Pastorius' bass solo in "Chicken." Awesome. Andrew played on Jupiter's 4+1 CC tuba that came from the display floor. The Dirty Dozen's Kirk Joseph used the Jupiter 4 valve sousaphone. The evening ended with a combined performance of both groups.

Look out for Jupiter's pro line horns - they will in time change the market.

Interesting tubing placement for the 5th valve. There is also a pull rod on it (don't know if that was custom or factory made) that would be really nice to have. The 5th valve on my CC is behind the valveset (as with most) and is a pain to manipulate... I'm jealous!

Pull rod is standard. The only instrument in use by the quintet that is not immediately available is the (French) horn. It should be out in the fall.

BTW, they ended their portion of the program with Caravan and the horn player grabbed a trumpet and joined in. Pretty taboo by most horn players standards and refreshing change.

Andrew sat for most of the program and that tuba came through loud and clear despite the volumes the other four were creating.

[quote="tubarepair"]Pull rod is standard. The only instrument in use by the quintet that is not immediately available is the (French) horn. It should be out in the fall.

BTW, they ended their portion of the program with Caravan and the horn player grabbed a trumpet and joined in. Pretty taboo by most horn players standards and refreshing change.
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J.D. doesn't believe in taboo.


He's a pretty good little trumpet player isn't he? The highlight of that group (no dog on the tuba) is definitely J.D., his writing, and his playing.

Look out for Jupiter's pro line horns - they will in time change the market.[/quote]



Ehh.. Don't know about that... once a jupiter, always a jupiter

tubathig wrote:Look out for Jupiter's pro line horns - they will in time change the market.

Ehh.. Don't know about that... once a jupiter, always a jupiter[/quote]

"Minds work best when they are open"

If their student line models finance their development of pro line models, so be it....

And, more choices for those wanting pro line instruments are always good.


Jeff

Will be hearing them tonight at Middle TN State Univ. (concert is at 7:30PM in Hinton Music Hall). Our Brass Quintet has a masterclass with them tomorrow morning at 11:30AM. I'll be interested to hear them play on these new instruments.

Are these horns available? I didn't see anything on there site about this.

Here is what the new Jupiter 584 CC tuba looks like. I tried it out and it seems to play pretty nice.

so, is this a 5 valve CC version of the 582? what is the bell size?

The 582 is NO WHERE CLOSE to a 186 in any category other than it is a tuba and is made of brass.

My senior year in high school, I got to go to this big high school thing at UGA. Like, 4-5 kids per school got to go. I had the oppurtunity to play American Ellegy WITH Ticheli (awesome dude). The day we left for Athens, our new Jupiter 582 came in. No idea why the director ordered it, we had three working 186's. Being dumb, I grabbed the 582 to give it a tryout over the weekend. It was cool cause it was new.

And it sucked cause it was a Jupiter. Horrible intonation, some valve combinations feel like you have to blow a lot more than normal, just not a real positive experiance with the horn.

And it didn't wear well either. Our 186's had to get repaired probably once a year each due to linkage issues (we were high school kids, for just that and minor dents we should have gotten medals) and the Jupiter was GIVEN to a local middle school the next year. Didn't make $ for us to keep it around.

So maybe their new line is awesome, but if it is they've come a long, long way.

Ok, I'm going to get on my soapbox now, as I'm tired of people bashing an instrument on what previous instruments did X number of years ago and that other crap.

Jupiter is the up and coming star in the musical instrument business. They want to be better everyday, and they are one of the few companies that acually listens to people's complaints and will make changes to their instruments.

Some of the early Jupiters I've seen were not great. However, early Yamaha instruments were crap as well. There is no manufacturer of student model tubas, and entry level CC tubas, that makes 100% of their instruments perfect. End of discussion.

No, I don't consider Miraphones student instruments, because they are considered to be a pro level BBb tuba in Europe.

I want to try one of these before I make a single judgement about the quality and playability of their instruments.

I was commenting on a model that I had played, in the last couple of years. A model that has not been changed since the time I played it. The 584 might be awesome, but the 582 (in my opinion) is not.

Bandmaster wrote:Here is what the new Jupiter 584 CC tuba looks like. I tried it out and it seems to play pretty nice.

What is the tuba pictured on the poster behind the 584?

Chuck(G) wrote:What is the tuba pictured on the poster behind the 584?

Looks like a 582:

http://www.wwbw.com/Jupiter-582-Series- ... 5283.music

I played the BBb and the CC horns, and was very impressed by the new CC. Not the greatest environment for critical horn evaluation, and I didn't have a tuner with me. The horn felt pretty even top-to-bottom, though, and the low register was nice too.

...Dave

MikeMason wrote:so, is this a 5 valve CC version of the 582? what is the bell size?

No! They might share the same bell, but that would be all. The 584 is a TOTALLY different horn. I played them both and they are nothing alike. I have played the sample 582 that they had on display for the last three years and two I liked, one I didn't. This 584 they had on display played MUCH better than the 582. It had a real solid feel in your hands and the response and intonation was pretty nice.

Chuck(G) wrote:What is the tuba pictured on the poster behind the 584?

That would be the 582 BBb tuba, in fact it is the tuba in the poster and the second tuba to the left, with the bell leaning away.

I know a pic has all ready been posted, but I thought I would throw these up anyway. This was the best I could do as the guys were preparing to pack up. Myself and the brass quintet I am member of went out last night with the guys. I of course asked Andrew what he thought. He said he loved it, very easy to play. The horn was designed with the help of Pat Sheridan and Sam Pilafian.

J.D. Shaw was out of town to be with his wife which is having a baby, so Jeff Powell filled in on flugal and sounded great. He designed the Conn Vintage trumpets, and also designed the Bb trumpets for Jupiter. They sounded great, kinda bright, but good.

I thought the tuba sounded good, the hall wasn't friendly to the low end, so it was tough to say. Andrew is a GREAT player in every way, and truly nice group of guys. See them if you get a chance!

Jupiter must have something on their hands if the Boston Brass made the switch to them

And Nike must make awesome shoes for LeBron to wear them. Or he gets paid to...

Don't most endorsing artists such as this get paid?

Anyone have an idea of the retail or street price?

How on Earth does Jupiter expect to sell one of their horns for that much?!? You could buy a Miraphone, B&S (maybe used?), King/Conn, or MW for that price!