Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:56 pm
You don't have a category for neither. Yammys are too expensive and Jupiters are too flimsy.
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:42 pm
Jupiter makes motorcycles!?
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:08 pm
Nah, golf carts:
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:18 pm
Yomamaha makes a lot of horns that have no equivalent in the Jupiter line. Maybe you should be a little more specific.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:33 pm
Hmmm.....................well I never liked Jupiters.
Yamaha's always felt alittle stuffy to me. They just arn't free blowing for me.
Yamaha's always felt alittle stuffy to me. They just arn't free blowing for me.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:09 pm
For student horns, I'd say the difference is negligable compared to the price.
I've been somewhat impressed with the newer jupiter stuff. The old trumpets don't seem to die...
Accross the lines they have ups and downs, but on the whole... I'd rather take Weril.
I've been somewhat impressed with the newer jupiter stuff. The old trumpets don't seem to die...
Accross the lines they have ups and downs, but on the whole... I'd rather take Weril.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:44 pm
Having repaired several tons of Yamaha, Jupiter and Weril school instruments, I'd have to say that the Yamaha instruments are the best-built, but not every situation needs that sort of instrument standard.
In fact, the looser valve tolerances on a Weril or Jupiter instrument may allow the valve to keep working after a mild-to-moderate accident that would cause the Yamaha valve to seize. Jupiter is still having some of the metallurgy/corrosion problems that Yamaha did years ago(and has now solved), but a good chem-cleaning and bright-dip treatment will arrest the red rot in a Jupiter and allow it to live a long and productive life. Weril tubas and euphoniums exhibit the general level of workmanship and quality seen in the latter Elkhart, and Mexican-production Conns. Werils and Jupiters are a great value for the money, although you are not likely to see one in a major symphony.
Yamaha has gone the quality route, and their prices reflect this. They are committed to the North American market for the long term, and have outstanding product support. I call them regularly. When DEG Music in Wisconsin imported the Werils, I could get any model easily and at a good price. Now, the distributorship has changed twice in the last year or so and I have no idea if I could really import one. I do not sell Jupiter instruments, but they are readily available and they are deeply committed to providing excellent repair parts support to American repair technicians. The tech guys in Austin, Texas are fantastic, and will get me any part I need, and as soon as possible.
Is an orange, a grapefruit, or a tangerine best? Personally, my taste goes for the tangerine, although I'll occasionally partake of the other two, also.
In fact, the looser valve tolerances on a Weril or Jupiter instrument may allow the valve to keep working after a mild-to-moderate accident that would cause the Yamaha valve to seize. Jupiter is still having some of the metallurgy/corrosion problems that Yamaha did years ago(and has now solved), but a good chem-cleaning and bright-dip treatment will arrest the red rot in a Jupiter and allow it to live a long and productive life. Weril tubas and euphoniums exhibit the general level of workmanship and quality seen in the latter Elkhart, and Mexican-production Conns. Werils and Jupiters are a great value for the money, although you are not likely to see one in a major symphony.
Yamaha has gone the quality route, and their prices reflect this. They are committed to the North American market for the long term, and have outstanding product support. I call them regularly. When DEG Music in Wisconsin imported the Werils, I could get any model easily and at a good price. Now, the distributorship has changed twice in the last year or so and I have no idea if I could really import one. I do not sell Jupiter instruments, but they are readily available and they are deeply committed to providing excellent repair parts support to American repair technicians. The tech guys in Austin, Texas are fantastic, and will get me any part I need, and as soon as possible.
Is an orange, a grapefruit, or a tangerine best? Personally, my taste goes for the tangerine, although I'll occasionally partake of the other two, also.
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:23 am
Do we have to choose... I choose Neither