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The bore size doesn't bother me all that much. It sounds almost good with a nice contra bass tbn mouthpiece... oh.. and a new reciever so you can fit it in.

The real problem is holding the damn thing. I've been using this model for a little while having borrowed one from a colleague for some time. If you can figure out how to hold it and still look/feel comfortable, you're a better man than I.

I can get a pretty passable cimbasso sound out of it though. Apparently, (I've read but can't confirm - for those who want to wrongly consider me an expert) cimbassos were originally shaped this way and were later 'bent.' And thank God! It's horrible to hold! I would say this is actually a cimasso rather than a bass trombone as indicated but it's a find line (Who ever heard of a bass trombone in F? G maybe... but not F).

There you have it. I guess they're out there. I stand corrected. I'll need to rethink my cimbasso theory....

If anyone asks if I'm playing a bass trombone with four valves on my next opera gig.... mum's the word!!!

I have bought and shortly thereafter returned the cerveny 4-valve model tenor trombone. I tried it out for a few days and I completely agree with Toobist. There is NO GOOD WAY to hold the damn thing. On the bottom side of the valve section there are moving parts so you really can't hold it there. The only way I could think of to hold it would be to have some sort of peg attached to it that would rest on the ground. If you're going to use it in a big band that may work. When I was shopping around dillon's had the best price for a new one that I could find, they have a 7-day trial period if you don't like it. It may be a good idea if you want to satisfy your curiosity, other than that I think It would be a long shot to find someone that owns one near you that you could try. Good luck!

Ryan

P.S. here is the link to dillon's.

http://www.dillonmusic.com/HeleoCart/Pr ... TMJscC4%3d

Re holding the Cerveny F bass trombone:

Place the thumb and first two fingers of the left hand around the water key side of the tubing just forward of the fourth rotor. That's what worked for me, anyway. YMMV