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I would like to know if anyone has used the LM-4,5&7 or any of these. If so what do you think about them, and what are they comparable too? Thank you.

Scooby Tuba wrote:The 15 is some thing different than most available mpcs in that it's a true double cup and is stepped in the cup. Sounds goofy? Works great. I use it quite a bit on Eb and CC. I also have an earlier version of the 15 that I just started using. Similar, but seems to be a little bigger cup volume.

Like a Parduba?

which Loud Mouthpiece would be comparable to a PT-48+ ?? or something very close to it. Thank you for the info.

josh wagner wrote:I would like to know if anyone has used the LM-4,5&7 or any of these. If so what do you think about them, and what are they comparable too? Thank you.

I have the LM-6,7,12, and 15.

The LM7 is comparable to a Schilke Helleberg II / Laskey 30H / Mike Finn MF3 / PT-44. The LM-6 is an LM-7 that has been drilled out so it has an even larger throat.

I like the Laskey copy (stamped 26H) or Helleberg rims on all the ones I have that have removeable rims. I really dig the interchangeable rims. I play a Laskey on my Mira 184 and B&S F so it's nice that the rims match.

The LM-12 and LM-15 are totally different than anything else available. The LM-12 is the shallowest thing I've ever seen, at least 1/3 more shallow than a C4. It's very entertaining to play, makes the low register super gruff.

Like Scooby mentioned, the LM-15 has a double cup thing going on, very different, but works well.

I'll take door number One

Shouldn't vibration depend on density?

..and here I always thought that this was a loud mouthpiece:

I vote for Dylan's entry as THE loud mouthpiece.

davemcrobs wrote:First it was.
The density of the surgical grade stainless steel is the key!
THen
The hardness of the surgical grade stainless steel is the key!
Now.
The vibration of the surgical grade stainless steel is the key!
which is it?

Well, as the man said, the design is part of it. If they're that good, they'd be good in brass, or wood or whatever.

But I'd say if you really want to know why stainless steel, ask Giddings. Last I read (in a comment posted here), they were seeing some evidence that friction is part of it. At high dynamic levels, where lip movement is affected by friction against the rim. If true, that could account for a lot of things that otherwise don't really add up, it seems to me -- stainless, gold plating, Lexan. What about greasy meals? From the pictures that used to appear here, greasy food is surely popular among Tubenet regulars, and should have a lubricating effect on the chops.

fact or friction:
"If they don't fit, then you must not spit"

does anyone know where you can go to try these?

ken k

I don't believe LOUD distributes through a retail chain. So you can't try one out locally. But he does have a pretty liberal return policy. It's not WalMart, but for a small manufacturer, it is reasonable due to the costs involved. Quote from the website:

"Our Return Policy

"You can try any of our mouthpieces or rims for two weeks. After two weeks, you may return the item for a full refund. The customer pays the shipping back to us and a $10 restocking fee is charged per item. As long as the item isn't damaged, no questions will be asked. Period!"

I have an LM-7 on order. I'll post after I've had a chance to try it out. I got lucky. I ordered mine before Joe went on vacation. The rest of you will have to wait another three weeks!

ken k wrote:does anyone know where you can go to try these?

ken k

Hey Ken --

I'd recommend contacting Dave Amason at Big Brass http://www.bigbrass.com/ he can help you with whatever LOUD mouthpiece you're interested in.

Dave
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Dr. David Rolf

Update: I ordered, received and tried a LOUD LM-7 mouthpiece. Very fine mouthpiece indeed. The workmanship is top quality, and even though the bowl is a pretty standard bowl, it looks like they've done something to the throat and the way its taper transitions to the backbore to make it a superlative mouthpiece for cleanness of articulation. If I were needing to do a lot of close mike recording, orchestra work, or other work where absolute clean and technical precision and consistency throughout the registers were the overriding factors, I would keep it. but for me it's a little dry and/or sterile, shall I say, "surgical," or maybe "tight" might be a description also, for me for concert band. I'm going to stick with my Wick 1 for my Besson and a Wick 1L for my Miraphone to get a little bit warmer, broader sound for my application. Great mouthpiece, though.

Edit: I would imagine it would be a great mouthpiece for a larger tuba, like a big Rudy, Holton 345, a copy of the large York, or such.