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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:05 pm
by SplatterTone
UMI/Conn 1792-2.

http://www.giardinelli.com/product/Conn ... sku=462260

A rather wide rim like the Wick. Diameter a little less than Wick 2 but bigger than Wick 3. I estimate cup depth is medium, so tone is not dark; you can get good harmonic content. On a B-Flat horn, the 124 E-Flat still comes out moderately well, but it doesn't have the ballsy, fundamental tone one gets with a big mouthpiece.

I have Wick 1,2,3XL and Wick 3SL. Don't have 2SL. So don't know how cup depth or tone compares.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:15 am
by iiipopes
Mike Finn MF4 is good for Eb. I prefer the Wick 3 what little I play Eb.

Re: Wick 2SL

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:05 am
by Donn
No real direct answers so far, possibly none of us really know the 2SL well enough to comment.

It's shallow, right? There a lot of relatively shallow mouthpieces. Most of the Marcinkiewicz line is available in several depths, Laskey has an F series. Schilke 62 is smaller and shallow. I loved a Dillon F1 on one Eb tuba but can't stand it on the other, where a Conn 2 or 7B seem to be the best bets so far (but the latter two are not shallow.)

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:01 am
by iiipopes
According to the Denis Wick mouthpiece pdf flyer, the 2SL is the same cup diameter, rim, throat and backbore as the 2L, but the S is for shallower cup, designed for a soloist.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:12 pm
by Donn
iiipopes wrote:According to the Denis Wick mouthpiece pdf flyer, the 2SL is the same cup diameter, rim, throat and backbore as the 2L, but the S is for shallower cup, designed for a soloist.
And according to Denis Wick, his 2L is a "funnel-shaped Helleberg type" ... but if you actually look at it, or play it, obviously that's a matter of degree. What about the 2SL? Hard to say without seeing one, whatever the PDF may claim.

I like the way Mike Finn deals with it: saw one in half, so you can see the contours of rim, cup, throat etc. Picture's worth a thousand words.