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Need some help from fellow Tubenetters
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:23 am
by goldenmoose
Hey,
I need help deciding what to do this summer...
Option 1 - I've been offered a contract to work at a theme park in Germany.
Option 2 - I could stay here in Orlando and work 5 days at one theme park and 2 days at another.
Pros to going to Germany - never been to Europe, would be a lot of fun
Cons to going to Germany - would only make about 1/3 of the money I would make here, I might lose a lot of the work in the future
What do you think? Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks!
Collin
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:06 pm
by Tubaguy56
go to germany, you'll find you'll make experiences you'll talk about for the rest of your life, and those experiences alone will be more than worth the 1/3 of money.
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:45 pm
by P8822
As a veteran of many theme park years, you should consider the following:
If you are happy with your gig, stay there until you decide to move on. javascript:emoticon(':D')
If you are unhappy with your gig, realize that the “grass might not be greenerâ€
Need some help
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:23 pm
by TubaRay
EuphManRob wrote:P8822 wrote:The summer in Germany will be a lot cooler than Orlando!
Cooler temperature-wise or cooler cool-wise?
(...both, I'd say...)
Cooler temperature-wise, for certain. Maybe cooler in both ways.
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:14 pm
by Thomas Maurice Booth
I have several friends who have gone to work in Germany for the summer and while there decided to make Germany something a little more permanent. I would look at the situation the chance to develop a good reputation/ a opportunity to get some good gigs under your belt.
I went on vacation to Germany several years ago and am so happy I went. If the opportunity comes for me to go back I would in a heartbeat.
TMB
Need some help
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:51 pm
by TubaRay
Germany=great place for a tuba player
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:08 pm
by Mojo workin'
Even if you were to "stay in one place" the whole summer in Germany, you'd still get a good idea of what certain basic cultural things are like there, and also get a chance to learn the language. This would be an invaluable experience. You could also take a lesson or two with a prominent German player such as Marcus Hotzel, Heiko Treibener, Walter Hilgers, Bob Tucci(American-German),etc. who could give you a good idea of the professional tuba playing situation there. They've got less than one third the population that we have and three times as many orchestras. It's a good place to be for a tuba player.
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:41 pm
by Wilco
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the obvious...... the beer is much better in Germany

Need help
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:49 pm
by TubaRay
Wilco wrote:I'm surprised nobody mentioned the obvious...... the beer is much better in Germany

Oooooh yeah!
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:30 pm
by iiipopes
bloke wrote:bloke "I wonder if some German guy is looking at his chance to work seven days a week at theme parks in the United States for 3X the money he has been offered to work at a theme park in Germany."

They definitely are in the Branson, Missouri area near where I live, especially at Silver Dollar City!
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:11 am
by MikeMason
Euhpman, you obviously haven't spent enough time on tubenet to really know Bloke.I wouldn't chastise one of our foundational members until you really know what's going on here.Many opinions,of all kinds and flavors,can be useful when making a decision,the tone of voice in the opinion is just for entertainment value.
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:29 am
by Allen
To follow up on the recent posts in this thread by Bloke, Euphman and Mike:
When an original poster poses a question and gives little or no information about where he is (either musically or in life) or about his goals and what is most important to him, it's a bit like a Rorsach (ink blot) test. Everyone is free to read anything he wants into the ink blot of a question, and proceed to tell us about their interests. This isn't necessarily either a bad thing or dull. However, it's not the most efficient way for the original poster to get the help he wants or needs.
If the original poster were to ask me the original question in person, I would remark on his good fortune to have these interesting alternatives, then start asking questions. Only later would I relate some of my experiences or make actual suggestions.
OK, goldenmoose, how about telling us a little more about yourself and your situation? I think you'll be pleased with the results.
By the way, on another BBS (regarding photography) I check into sometimes, there are plenty of questions that could be summarized as, "I want to take pictures; what camera should I get?" The various replies could contain thoughtful comments, snappy remarks, acusations of unhelpfulness, and sometimes even some flames from the OP.
Cheers,
Allen
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:22 am
by Wilco
EuphManRob wrote:Ich sprech nicht der Deutsche so gut als etwa du glaubst. Ich schreib mit viel Hilfe von ein Wörterbuch. Ik spreek heel beter 't Nederlands! Is er iemand hier wie kan spreken 't Nederlands met mij?)
Hey, wat leuk.... Nederlands is mijn moedertaal. Heb je in Nederland gewerkt?
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:22 am
by iiipopes
You can take me with you. Just push me out of the plane with a parachute as you fly over Britain.
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:16 am
by goldenmoose
thanks for the responses. i was purposely vague in the first response, so here is some more info...
23 years old
roud-trip airfare is included
housing is included
been working at theme parks in orlando since age 17
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:56 am
by Tubaguyjoe
if you end up in germany give me a call. Im in Stuttgart, ill introduce you to the local teachers and whatnot. -Joe
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:23 pm
by TubaRay
Scooby Tuba wrote:The last time I was in Germany the exchange was DM3.4=$1...
The street vendors were charging DM1 for a tasty sausage on a wonderful hard roll and one town's brewery charged DM1 for a 4 pack of 1/2 litre bottles of the best pilsner I've ever had... (2 litres of great beer for 29 cents...).
Those were the days...
Those days were quite a long time ago.
Need some help
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:24 pm
by TubaRay
bloke wrote:
I'll try to avoid your future flames by making inane comments about beer, like everyone else.
bloke "I wasn't being sarcastic...until just now."
Beer, inane?

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:03 pm
by tubalex
Jr. High-Yamaha 4/4 piston B-flat
High School- yamaha 4/4 rotary B-flat
Undergrad College-
Miraphone 186 CC (sold quickly after purchase)
HB 1p
PT 10
Holton 6/4 Rusk cut CC
Masters-
PT 7p
Meinl weston 45 sl
yamaha 822 f (for about 3 months)
rudy meinl 3/4 CC (blissfully my 3rd tuba, sold to pay debt)
doctorate
PT 6
PT 15 (4 years)
PT 10
yamaha 622 CC (2 years as 3rd horn)
Professional so far-
PT 6
PT 10
-Alex Lapins
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:29 pm
by Allen
EuphManRob wrote:goldenmoose, Given what you've told me, unless it would seriously hamper your chances of future employment in the Orlando area (you still haven't told us why you thought that it might), I would definitely go for it. The only other reason I might advise not doing so is if you are saving money for some future long-term thing (such as getting married or trying to move), in which case you would want to be making as much money as possible.
The Euphman beat me to it. That's my advice too.
Cheers,
Allen