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imperialbari · Post by **imperialbari** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:25 am

Not even a good attempt of making a thread run wild.

Klaus

Alex C · Post by **Alex C** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:05 pm

In the event you are serious, look in the front of almost any beginner band book and you will find a fingering chart.

On a BBb tuba it is fingered 2-4 or 1-2-3 (very sharp).

To make the thread run wild: Which presidential candidate will best represents the goals and needs of tuba\euphonium players, Bush or Kerry?

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:02 pm

cc_tuba_guy wrote:Not only are they close, they are enharmonic equivilents. That means that even though they are notated differently, the actual pitches are identical.

They're the same if you're an ivory tickler, but if you have an instrument where tuning can be varied so you can play justly-tempered intervals (like a tuba), enharmonics are not, strictly speaking, identical.

If you're looking for more, just google on "enharmonic" and "temperament".

ahowle · Post by **ahowle** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:27 pm

Chuck(G) wrote:They're the same if you're an ivory tickler, but if you have an instrument where tuning can be varied so you can play justly-tempered intervals (like a tuba), enharmonics are not, strictly speaking, identical.

He's right.

Tom B. · Post by **Tom B.** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:29 pm

OK. I've gotta ask.

Does anybody on this board actually attack a Cb differently than they attack a B? I understand that they are different notes with slightly different frequencies depending on the note's relationship to other notes, but I have to admit my approach is simply to get to the note without a frak, and adjust the intonation as quickly as possible--hopefully, before anybody notices I'm not necessarily playing dead-on.

And, (gulp) another admission, I probably don't think ahead of time which way I should adjust the note. I let my ear do it during the moment--who's to say everybody else is playing their notes dead-on? I may actually adjust to an "incorrect" pitch that sounds better in tune.

Am I alone?

funkcicle · Post by **funkcicle** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:25 pm

Tom B. wrote:OK. I've gotta ask.

Does anybody on this board actually attack a Cb differently than they attack a B?

I attack notes based on their fuction and not their name.. so Cb written as a b9 over a Bb7 chord would be approached differently than B written as the 7th in a C#7 chord. That's when approaching performance music, though. When playing archival music(ie classical) I reckon most people just play what's on the page.. no real difference between Cb and B once it's written down anyways.

(go! run!)

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:22 am

mandrake wrote:[and if I were to tell a pianist to play "C flat" they would likely say "that doesn't exist; you mean B". .

Actually, they need only lean over and ask the harpist (whose instrument is keyed in C flat).