Ray Draper's Horn

ArnoldGottlieb · Post by **ArnoldGottlieb** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:03 pm

Does anybody know what the horn pictured on the cover of the "The Ray Draper Quartet Featuring John Coltrane" is? Obviously a big bell front three valve fixed bell horn, but does anybody know the specifics of this horn or others that Ray played? Thanks. Peace. ASG

ArnoldGottlieb · Post by **ArnoldGottlieb** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:57 pm

still wondering, and here's the cd cover
http://www.alwaysontherun.net/coltrane/raydrap.htm
another cd cover
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/produ ... l_103b.jpg

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:50 pm

Gotta be a fixed bell King. I owned for a very short time a fixed bell 4 valve that looked the same. Shalom.

Chuck

ArnoldGottlieb · Post by **ArnoldGottlieb** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:59 pm

And Shalom to you too my brother from another mother, any idea's on BBb, Eb? I'm not buying one just cause Ray played it, I'm just really interested in this cat (and I probably would buy one cause Ray played it if there was one for sale.....).
Peace. ASG

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:31 pm

Mein Brud, definitely a BBb. I have heard the cds and the sound is indicative of a BBb. M'azel Tov.

Chuck

ArnoldGottlieb · Post by **ArnoldGottlieb** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:50 pm

Yeah Man,
I thought so too, but sometimes the mind plays tricks....I'll try to do some close listening after work tonite so I can nail down where I'm talking about. From what I understand about his history he probably did not have a lot of extra horns laying around. I know there's a picture of a german rotary horn on the LA record he did, but I've never heard it, and nobody has convinced me I need to. Stories about this guy that go around NYC on the other hand.....
Peace. ASG

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:23 pm

Remember that in order to get a good looking album cover, or the right "proportion" or "feel" from the eyes of the photographer, the horn in the picture may or may not be the horn played on the album.

ArnoldGottlieb · Post by **ArnoldGottlieb** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:29 pm

While I appreciate the opinion, I don't think that this was the case here, 1) because there was no money for anything, and 2) because it's in more than one picture. Thanks though. Really.
Peace. ASG