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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:35 pm
by Steve Inman
Could it be a MW-197 BBb?

http://www.meinl-weston.com/hilgers.htm

Cheers,

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:56 pm
by Wyvern
The big one is certainly the Melton 197 BBb.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:22 pm
by MikeMason
thank you.awesome....

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:06 pm
by finnbogi
Is Hilgers' F tuba a Melton 46HL?
I saw a similar tuba in the pit at the Bavarian State Opera a few weeks ago (playing Rosenkavalier - a great performance), and didn't recognise it.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:28 pm
by oldbandnerd
Gadzooks !!!!!! What a group !!!

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:26 pm
by jonesbrass
Looks like the Fafner BBb and the Hilgers Model F. Most likely not an Eb. I'd be a bit suprised to see him playing on an Eb- that's not a very big part of the tradition in Germany.

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:43 am
by Wyvern
Referring to the Melton catalogue, the smaller tuba appears a 45H-S F tuba, while the lack of flair on the bell shows the larger to be a 5/4 197 BBb - both Walter Hilgers models.

The 197 is based on a legendary 1938 tuba - see viewtopic.php?t=16490&highlight=