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Vaughan Williams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:23 pm
by Eric B
Can somebody recommend a great symphonic recording of the VW Tuba concerto? I've searched TubeNet and I'm certain it's been covered. I link to a prior discussion would be helpful too.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:26 pm
by Blake Dowling
I don't know of one on the web, but if you can get your hands on "The English Tuba" by Eugene Dowling (no relation). that cd has a phenomenal recording of the concerto performed with the LSO.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:32 pm
by LoyalTubist
Can you still get the RCA John Fletcher recording anywhere?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:59 pm
by TUBAMUSICIAN87
Theres two ways of thinking when playing the VW(IMO,though a novice oppinion at that) :
1)Playing to an educated audience, meaning an audience that understands tuba solos and the VW tuba concerto. Then I would most definately look for the Phillip Catillenet versrion wich I found on the "Classical Music Library" great recording

2)Play to an audience of mixed tuba knowledge. For This I would recomend the Hans Nickel recording, also great recording.

Now I know and expect people to rip my comment to shreds as I am still trying to decide wich way I would play it or if I would choose any of these ways (as I said a novice comment, though I thought might be worth 2 cents)

But before people rip this apart, I would recomend some thought of "do you consider yourself as part of the audience?"

Again feel free to criticize any of this, especially the TNFJ

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:45 am
by LoyalTubist
I always consider the audience. I have to be honest and say, if I want to play for myself I can play at home with the electronic gadgets I have (synthesizer and such along with tuba). However, I believe in playing what the audience wants to hear or what they might like. Otherwise it's like trying to feed me tofu or goatmeat. I'll take a couple of bites of each and say, "Shee! That's tofu and goat!" Then I won't eat it. Your audience will act the same way if they don't like your music, although they might be a little more polite.

Re: Vaughan Williams

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:10 am
by Rick Denney
Eric B wrote:Can somebody recommend a great symphonic recording of the VW Tuba concerto? I've searched TubeNet and I'm certain it's been covered. I link to a prior discussion would be helpful too.
The Fletcher recording is the standard by which others are measured.

Micheal Lind recorded it. Too pretty for me.

There is a Catelinet recording made the day following the premiere. Not pretty enough for me.

The Hans Nickel recording on Cantuballada is one of my favorites.

The Jacobs recording fits in the historical sequence, but in my opinion contributes more to Tubenet commentary than to Vaughan Williams.

There is a Bill Bell recording with the Little Orchestra Society of New York (that was privately sold on this forum a while back). It' also has it's logical place in the historical record, and does contribute to the composer's essential character. It has humor, and the Nickel is the only other one I've heard that also does. How can this work be performed without humor?

There are other examples listed in the thread, several of which I also own. But I keep going back to the Nickel.

Of all of those, the Fletcher is probably the most available and probably the appropriate starting point.

Rick "who thinks Fletch is too smooth and too perfect" Denney

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:37 am
by BVD Press
Not available yet, but check out the upcoming CD's:

http://www.baadsvik.com/?articleID=77

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:39 pm
by Eric B
Atlanta Tuba Dad,

Thanks for posting the Michael Moore llink. I very much enjoyed that. I would call that a "Great Recording".

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:19 pm
by Mark
Bob1062 wrote:Isn't a Walt Hilgers recording of him playing it, THEN conducting some other pieces?
Walt?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:19 pm
by BVD Press
And TubeNet's own Ben Pierce with Piano accompaniment:

http://www.benpierce.com/MP3.html

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:25 am
by scottw
Eric B wrote:Atlanta Tuba Dad,

Thanks for posting the Michael Moore llink. I very much enjoyed that. I would call that a "Great Recording".
Did anyone stick with this link to it's end? If so, you would have heard a brief snippet of Carol Jansch that was excellent!

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:55 pm
by Mark
Bob1062 wrote:
Mark wrote:
Bob1062 wrote:Isn't a Walt Hilgers recording of him playing it, THEN conducting some other pieces?
Walt?

Cause Walt sounds cooler than Walter! :D
It may be that Mr. Hilgers does not agree with you.

vaughn williams

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:23 am
by peter birch
a good recent recording is James Gourlay on Naxos (8.557754).
it has some other interesting british tuba pieces on as well (Gregson, Steptoe and Golland)

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:41 am
by Wyvern
Bob1062 wrote:Isn't a Walt Hilgers recording of him playing it, THEN conducting some other pieces?
This is the recording

viewtopic.php?t=15078&highlight=

As a fan of Herr Hilgers playing, I recommended it a while back.

Jonathan "who generally prefers the RVW with the lighter tone of an F"