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Currently on my euphonium, I am playing a Schilke 51D, often said to be the best euphonium mouthpiece out there. Now, knowing lots of tuba players and trombone players who use Doug Elliot mouthpieces, how do his mouthpieces work for the euphonium in comparison against the Schilke 51D.

PS: I probably won't switch to the Doug Elliot, I'm just curious that's all.

Thanks

I play on a Doug Elliott mpc - and have for over 2 years now. I have played on the Schilke 51D, but liked the tone I got better with a Wick 5AL. When I met with Doug Elliott years ago, I told him that I liked the tone I got with a Wick -- but my 6th partials were too sharp. He told me that his rims were almost identical to Wick's. The shape of a DE cup is different than the 51D. The 51D is more of a bowl shape, DE's cup is a bit of a cross between a funnel and bowl. I really like the tone I get with my setup... which is LT-102 rim; LT-H cup; and H8 shank. I'm not as sharp on the 6th partials with this setup. According to his pamphlet, my setup is close to a Wick 4.5AL. This mpc is a bit bigger than the 51D you're playing.

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I'm now playing with LT-I cup (deeper than H) and an I-8 shank with the 102 rim. This is a great setup for me. Still has a good focused sound and with more projection.

Doug Elliott mouthpieces work fantastic on euphonium. I used to play a Schilke 51D on euphonium (I've also played several Steven Mead models too) but switched to a Doug Elliott XT101/I/I8 mouthpiece. The tone and articulations were MUCH clearer than on the Schilke. Projection was no problem. If you have any specific questions please feel free to contact me.

I have to agree with the two posts above on all counts, particularly the intonation point.

The advantages for me were the easy change of shanks of course for the vintage Euphoniums I use.

CB

speaking of Doug Elliot - has anyone heard from him recently? I've sent several e-mails over the last few months and ... nothing

speaking of Doug Elliot - has anyone heard from him recently? I've sent several e-mails over the last few months and ... nothing

He had a house fire a while back and he's been busy rebuilding, so he hasn't had a lot of time for e-mails. He has been responding to them, but not in his usual timely manner. In short, he is temporarily not making mouthpieces (hasn't been since March) - my guess would be for at LEAST the next few months. Here's more info:

http://www.dougelliottmouthpieces.com/news.html

I wouldn't worry though, he'll get back to you eventually.

This recently came up on The Trombone Forum (with his own personal response - he is a Moderator there).

http://tromboneforum.org/index.php/topic,35057.0.html

I play a Schilke 51D and I dont mind it but I havent had much time to experience any other mouthpiece. The only bad thing is I doubt theres any way of "TRYING" a DE mpc without purchasing it. I know a Long and McQuade Dealer here in Canada, their rep has offered to get some mouthpieces in to try. As far as I understand, DE is more private and this probably wouldnt be very possible at this distance? I'd also like to take a peak at a Bowman mouthpiece and a Wick.

I am back in business now, and I have a 30 day return policy. Yes, you buy it, but I will refund in full (no restocking fee) if you don't like it. You do have to pay postage both directions.

I need to update my website... I am now making a EUPH series that is "bigger" than the LT or XT series that I make for trombone, although those can be used on euph if you like "normal" trombone-size mouthpieces. The larger EUPH series is more along the lines of the Wick Ultra in size and feel, but with the focus that my mouthpieces are known for. The EUPH parts are not compatible with LT or XT parts; they use my bass trombone blanks and threads.

Contact me if you need more information.

Thanks Doug, you may here from me in the next 2 months.

Take Care


Kev

For the last week or so I have been playing a new DE Euph 104J cup with a 9 shank and a narrow 105 rim (the narrow 104 was a little too narrow).

This is a roughly the same as a classic SM3, but the cup depth seems a bit deeper than the new SM3 Ultra.

Works very well for me and is solving some problems I had with the SM3 and SM3U.

Glad to hear it's working well. I've only made a few so far, so not a lot of feedback yet but it seems all positive.

The cup is EUPH J, not "104J." I am making 3 cup depths for this series - I, J, and K. I think I and J will be most useful for euphonium; the K cup is pretty deep.

Rim sizes that I make for the EUPH series are 102, 103, 104, and 105, in standard and narrow versions of each. Those are inch designations... they correspond to metric 25.9mm, 26.16, 26.4, and 26.7.