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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:51 pm
by clagar777
I'm anticipating the Kodiak F. Does any one know when that will be out?

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:56 pm
by josh wagner
yep i hear it has power steering also :D

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:40 pm
by SplatterTone
I saw the Allora 191 was back in WWBW's most recent catalog. Hallelujah!
(except they have it listed as a Jupiter AA191 ... and it isn't listed on the web site).
Everybody should have a 191 made by somebody. Kim Il Sung plays a 191.

Re: Upcoming tubas?

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:31 pm
by Ferguson
Bob1062 wrote:What are some new tubas that are expected to come out this year?

Miraphone 191 C?
Miraphone piston F?
Big Miraphone C (would this be the 191 C, or a Miraphone BAT)?
Yes, yes, and yes to the Miraphones. Miraphone is planning a large piston CC, bigger than the 1291, but not a York clone. They are also experimenting with making a new version of the old 190 CC but with the large rotary valves from the 191, for Joe Murphy I think. And, a 191 CC has been on the drawing board for a while. The new piston F is testing right now.

SF

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:09 am
by LoyalTubist
I would love to see some manufacturers BRING BACK some instruments that haven't been seen since before World War II.

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:32 pm
by OldsRecording
LoyalTubist wrote:I would love to see some manufacturers BRING BACK some instruments that haven't been seen since before World War II.
Wouldn't it be cool if Besson (or someone) came out with a 3+1 compensating F? Or, even cooler, a new version of the Barlow?

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:45 pm
by AndyCat
Yamaha are bringing out a 3+1 top action BBb aimed at the top level Brass Band market fairly soon. I'll be reviewing it in the Band Press soon. Not got it yet though!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:52 pm
by Bandmaster
What about the new line a horns that Walter Nirschl is bring out that are made in India? I have heard from some that they are going to being very good. Especially the BBb tuba.

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:36 pm
by MartyNeilan
Is Walter Nirschl going to ressurect Kalison? I understand that they had pretty decent 4/4 York copy (aka PT606 type of horn) that was in prototype.

Kalison

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:52 pm
by gregsundt
I didn't know Kalison needed resurrecting. I met Vince S. at the Midwest Conference and played a protoype that Kalison had done of Bob Leblanc's 4/4 York CC. Nice tuba. I also played one each of Nirschl's "production" and "handmade" 4/4 CC tubas. I would have taken the Kalison over either one, but the production model beat the handmade one. Bear in mind, though, all this was done without a tuner and an extra pair of ears.

Re: Kalison

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:27 pm
by MartyNeilan
cktuba wrote:Hey Marty... can I convince you that yours is chaff and offer to trade you even up for a Rudy 4/4? :wink:
If your Rudy is like most others, then it is definitely wheat - you should hang on to it. I am actually thinking about keeping the Weimar and eventually having it fixed up (and maybe even adding a 5th valve) because the Kali is so B_I_G.
I still think the 2155R could beat it in a sheer dB contest, though - the analogy I think of is the 2155R punching with bare knuckles vs. the KaliBat pushing with two palms.

Re: Kalison

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:52 am
by gregsundt
cktuba wrote:
gregsundt wrote:I didn't know Kalison needed resurrecting. I met Vince S. at the Midwest Conference and played a protoype that Kalison had done of Bob Leblanc's 4/4 York CC. Nice tuba. I also played one each of Nirschl's "production" and "handmade" 4/4 CC tubas. I would have taken the Kalison over either one, but the production model beat the handmade one.
What year was that? I believe Kalison went bankrupt almost 2 years ago. This is the last article I have seen on them. I believe they went bankrupt shortly after this...
Actually, December 2006. Vince talked as though Kalison was still a viable brand, but he may just have been covering the fact that he doesn't yet have a contract with the new company? Do salesmen do stuff like that, even if they are tuba players?

Re: Kalison

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:10 am
by WakinAZ
gregsundt wrote:Do salesmen do stuff like that, even if they are tuba players?
They do if they are Vince...

Eric "never again" L.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:44 pm
by MartyNeilan
the elephant wrote:Now here's a Bobaphone if I ever saw one:

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How are the false tones?