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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:12 pm
by dopey
Played one all through highschool. They dent if you look at them wrong.
Always had complimenets on tone with that horn, I always enjoyed playing it. Its also rather small, compared to a miraphone 186.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:59 pm
by Wyvern
Well I cannot comment on that specific model, but I have recently got a Cerveny CBB701 (see
viewtopic.php?t=23368&highlight=701 ) and have no complaints about the quality.
Yes, Cerveny are pretty lightweight, but that is the way they are constructed and nothing to indicate "poor metal".
I image they would dent easily, but so will most tubas!
If you want a good tuba on a budget, they are worth checking out.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:18 pm
by jonesbrass
This model was the first tuba I ever owned. That was a few years ago, and from what I've seen Cerveny's quality has improved somewhat. Yes, they it did dent easily, but I owned mine for about 7 years and it didn't have too many dents in it. Not as bad as an aluminum can. Are you going to take care of it? If yes, then it will be fine. Same with any horn.
The tone was nice, and it had the typical tuba intonation quirks. Best bet is to go ahead and play before you buy, even if you have to take a trip. The price is certainly good.
Good luck!
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:32 pm
by jonesbrass
Yes. Definitely.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:22 am
by dopey
the 686 may be worth a look at as well, its a lil larger version of the 681..(if I remember correctly).
Re: Cerveny sheet metal
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:19 pm
by jonesbrass
tredonme wrote:I have the BBb 693. . . The other issue to pay close attention to is the intonation issues with each individual horn. Try to find a retailer that has a herd of the same model if possible. Cerveny tubas can vary widely in the same model. (at least what I have been told).
Maybe someone can provide advise. I have a terrible time getting the F sharp, G flat (valves 2 and 3). Its the strangest thing, but I can not hit that note right for the life of me. It is fine on the Conn 2xJ. My C sharp, D flat are fine. My low F sharp, G flat are fine.
I don't know if the Cervenys made nowdays have as much variation as they used to; quality control there seems to have improved quite a bit, at least from what I've seen.
As far as the F#/Gb on your BBb, I had a similar experience with certain notes on my old horn centering the way they should. As I remember it, it may have been in the same range as your problem. Any number of things could cause that kind of problem, though, from design flaws to inconsistent assembly and soldering. How is the valve compression?
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:05 pm
by iiipopes
As set forth in another thread, I'm having the same issues with the bottom line G & Gb on my Miraphone 186. After I clear some other responsibilities and scheduling, I'm going to take some time to investigate some bracing, leakage, rotor alignment and other issues to see if I can find out what's interfering with the nodes.