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Small and free-blowing, decent intonation...that's my memory. Used one for 3 days or so several years back. I didn't get upset by the instrument, put it that way. Not an orchestral horn, though.

I tried a couple the various times I went down to Brasswind and my thoughts were as such:

1). Decent intonation, but not much 'color' (maybe it was the room).
2). If it had a 5th valve, it might have been up there with the G50/C50 or Conn 52/54/56's...
3). But it didn't have a 5th valve, so I didn't even consider it because it couldn't do much more down low than my 983 Eb (similar size/volume output), which also had a similar bore size ( .690"-ish).
4). Maybe on the smaller (physically) size of 4/4 CC's.
5). At the time, the price wasn't too good for a new, smaller 4/4 CC without a 5th valve.

Eli Newberger really likes his. Ask him about it.

You can see mine in action here:
http://www.elinewberger.com/video_jazz_trio.html
Eli

I dig it...

enewberger wrote:You can see mine in action here:
http://www.elinewberger.com/video_jazz_trio.html
Eli

Nice!

...and it's always cool to see what the pros do with their left hands while playing.

you should see what Eli does with both hands when NOT playing tuba!

I try not to spend too much time drooling over the heavy hitters of tuba, but having met Dr. Newberger, I have to say that he is worth drooling over. In addition to being a performer of the highest caliber, he is an incredibly intelligent pediatrician considered to be a foremost expert on male psychological development. He has lectured at the White House (tuba included!) and written some highly respected literature.

It is not often that someone reaches pinnacles in TWO highly competitive areas (i.e. music and medicine) that require so much study. We should consider ourselves lucky that he is one of us.

bort wrote:...and it's always cool to see what the pros do with their left hands while playing.

If you really want to see a creative use of the left hand while playing the tuba, check out this:

http://www.elinewberger.com/video_second_piano.html

Great video! Great tune, well executed - it's great to see someone who really knows how to work in this genre and the Harvey Phillips Holton is a perfect fit with the group.

These horns are designed in a rather unique way. They are modeled after Mr. Phillips' old Conn on which he used different slide settings than would be considered "traditional".

You set the horn up to play all below the staff "D's" and "C#'s" 1&3 and 1,2&3. The fourth slide has enough length to pull it so that, by itself the 4th valve plays the pedal "F" instead of 1,4 or 1,2,4. So actually, it's like it is a compensating horn from the pedal "F" on down, using regular fingerings in combination with the 4th valve. A brilliant way of showing how a 4 valve horn CAN do everything a 5 valve horn can do.

Mr. Phillips is an old friend, teacher and mentor and I still believe he is one of the most brilliant people on this planet.

Just my thoughts.
Roger

That is wonderful playing and music-making. Wow!

Chamber Musician wrote:Enough talk - time to play!

That is great advice for us all. I think I'll heed it.

Bob1062 wrote:I wonder if these things would be more popular if-
-they had at least a .689 bore (or bigger, as a "piston piggy" as they kinda got that look anyways)
-were less expensive?

I have never even seen one, so what the hell do I know!

Bob, bob, bob. Again, I gotta use a hot rod car analogy: you don't put a Holly double pumper on a small block with only the stock valves and exhaust. The entire horn has its own flow characteristics, which have specifically taken this bore size, leadpipe size, valve block, bugle and bell flare into account.