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I just want to say hello to all people of tis board from Spain!
I play a nice miraphone 190CC property of my band years ago and it´s the sound that I´m looking for now. I sell my willson 3050CC (that it have many good things but not convinced the sound) and need some help with people that plays miraphones like 191Bb, 289Bb, 1291/2 CC or Bb.

1) Wich of this is similar in sound to 190 CC.
2) I´m very thank you to know experiences on a 5/4 289 Bb.

How you can see i don´t worry to change to Bb. I just want find a sound...

Many thanks in advance!

Thank you very much Bob for your instructive post, it helps to me to form an idea before trying this horns.
And "Schlepporello" you Know perfectly that i feel whith the sound of big Miraphones, like was described on older post like "3D sound"

someone can help me whit experiences on 289?
Is newer than 191 or older?

After two wears of research I found the "exact sound that I searched"
and it is a released CC-90B Kaiser!!!
I post a review when I have it in my hands...

Awesome tuba! Congratulations!

Where in Spain are you? I'll be there in 2 weeks.

I´m waiting for now.
I bougt the tuba from thomann.de and in the web page says that it have in stock from 15 of november....
Waiting.....
I will make a review when I have it