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York YEB-3082 Preference EEb Professional Tuba?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:32 am
by Sylvano
WWBW has this horn listed.
Who makes it or bought the name?


Cheers

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:38 am
by windshieldbug
Schreiber & Keilwerth Musikinstrumente GmbH

http://www.york-brass.com/englisch/about.htm

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:45 am
by kingrob76
All components for York brass instruments are manufactured with the correct tooling, corresponding to historical specifications which have been developed over many years.

The result: brass instruments with the legendary British brass sound.
Who knew "York" tubas were actually from here?

At least they're using the correct tooling.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:07 pm
by Donn
kingrob76 wrote:
All components for York brass instruments are manufactured with the correct tooling, corresponding to historical specifications which have been developed over many years.

The result: brass instruments with the legendary British brass sound.
Who knew "York" tubas were actually from here?

At least they're using the correct tooling.
Define "correct"? As far as I can tell, this could mean nothing more than `when we're making a tuba, we're careful to use only tooling that works for making tubas.' If their historical specifications yield an Eb compensating York just like the one Grandpa used to play, I'll eat my hat.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:09 pm
by kingrob76
Donn wrote:Define "correct"? As far as I can tell, this could mean nothing more than `when we're making a tuba, we're careful to use only tooling that works for making tubas.' If their historical specifications yield an Eb compensating York just like the one Grandpa used to play, I'll eat my hat.
Beats me - I was just quoting their website. Ok, I was mocking their website.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:03 pm
by joshwirt
i've heard that the York euphonium (the one similar to the Besson Prestige) is very, very good.....especially considering who is endorsing them now.....

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:41 pm
by Blake Dowling
My teacher Gail Robertson plays one and it is an amazing horn. A good bit larger than her old wilson, but the sound is amazing. (even when she let me play it.)

York play-test

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:52 pm
by billeuph
They had these for play-testing at the north american brass band championships in the spring, so naturally I gave it a toot. Very nice. At first toot it was a bit hard to distinguish visually and sound-wise from my Besson Sov, but definitely worth a look if your looking for an E flat. It should fit right in to a brass band section with Bessons and fit and look the part.

I spent more time with their compensating B flat, and I'm sad to say that all of the things I dislike about the Besson B flat were faithfully reproduced in the York- too top-heavy, too tall, too wide, and too heavy- an ergonomic disaster, for me at least.

Bill Anderson

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:39 pm
by The Jackson
Blake Dowling wrote:My teacher Gail Robertson plays one and it is an amazing horn. A good bit larger than her old wilson, but the sound is amazing. (even when she let me play it.)
I saw her play at Tubachristmas on Saturday. She sounded amazing and did great arrangements!

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:15 pm
by AndyCat
David Erichsen wrote:I have also tried the Bb and find it to be the best Brass Band Bb at the moment. It is much easier to play than the old bessons, also I belive because of the floating leadpipe. And the sound is more even than on the bessons.
The York BBb can't take the volume of sound required in a good standard band BECAUSE of the leadpipe. Yes, it is easy to play at moderate levels. I tried and discounted the prototype because of this, and the Dyke players ARE NOT playing York BBb's until this, and many issues, are sorted with the BBb.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:37 pm
by AndyCat
Mike Johnson wrote:
AndyCat wrote:The York BBb can't take the volume of sound required in a good standard band BECAUSE of the leadpipe. Yes, it is easy to play at moderate levels. I tried and discounted the prototype because of this, and the Dyke players ARE NOT playing York BBb's until this, and many issues, are sorted with the BBb.
It's not the leadpipe that is the problem!
Besson Tubas were traditionally made from 22SWG brass which is .711mm thick. Including all the valve knuckles and tubing.
'The Schreiber and Besson are made from .5mm Brass
A difference of about 40% in the wall thickness.
That's why they won't take the volume.
Mike
Mike, an excellent level of BOCness there! Do you know if they've made changes yet or not? Matt Routley said not recently, but I'd like to try an improved model when they're touting it around. I'm quite happy with my new LMI, although whether they'll be around long who knows?!