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Have you considered calling Ivan and asking him that question? He would be the guy who would know the answer, for sure. He is a good guy to talk to because of the information and ramifications of design you will certainly get in to when you get the first bit of information and need other facts about his mouthpieces. He is an honest guy - he does not deal in misinformation. He is a sponsor of this site. 253-381-8346

JCRaymo wrote:I am pretty sure the two closest models to the Helleberg are the New Baer CC mouthpiece and the Diablo. I would call and ask Ivan to be sure.

I opted for the Diablo, and it is not particularly a Helleberg style. I mean, you're probably right, it may be closer than their other models, it just isn't close enough to count, that's my opinion. Though it could depend on what you're looking for -- rim shape like a Helleberg? Internal diameter? Throat size? Depth? Sounds like a Helleberg? If you really want a stainless steel mouthpiece in a Helleberg style, I hear Paul Sidey might have something along those lines.

I don't know. The Taku is described as having the darkest tone. A friend of mine used one a couple of years ago, and it did have a pretty deep funnel.

After a year playing a plastic Kelly 24AW, the plastic was sticky the last two hours of a four hour gig. I got blisters from a non allergenic mouthpiece.
I love my G&W Diablo. A Tubenet friend wrote that the mouthpiece is worth more than my horn. That is probably true but I don't want to change a thing.
I got the edge back in my tuba's sound only a metal mouthpiece can give me. I was surprised the rim was so narrow but I got used to it.
G&W stainless steel is not giving me more blisters. Blatting gives me more blisters. I need to grow up one day and stop doing that.

nxt2laststarfighter wrote:

That said I would like something with a shallower cup/funnel to make playing solos that kinda stay in the upper range a little easier, and to help center those high notes.

I got a Churada for the reason you are looking for a shallower mouthpiece. That did it for me. Otherwise, I use a Matanuska for orchestra playing.

nxt2laststarfighter wrote:... there is a MW 2000 here that is AWESOME. I will defiantly get some pics of that one.

You could just take them quietly -- no need to be defiant about it (don't want to tick-off the security guards ).

Seriously, though, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing your pictures!

the elephant wrote:

Kevin Hendrick wrote:

nxt2laststarfighter wrote:... there is a MW 2000 here that is AWESOME. I will defiantly get some pics of that one.

You could just take them quietly -- no need to be defiant about it (don't want to tick-off the security guards ).

Seriously, though, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing your pictures!

Ah … let him don his cape and tights if he wants …

Well ... OK ...

I would like something with a shallower cup/funnel to make playing solos that kinda stay in the upper range a little easier, and to help center those high notes.

Hey, nobody has recommended the plain, old rumdum Yamaha 67 in a while. I think it's about time it had its turn. Shallow? Did somebody say shallow? Yamaha 66B.