Cheap Eb tubas?

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 8:45 pm

I have recently been investigating Eb tubas. The reasons are that I was hoping they would be cheaper than F tubas, and many years ago I used to play Eb (part of the time). I have been considering getting a small one, as the purpose would be for playing higher parts, agile solos, etc. I already have a fine contrabass tuba for the lower and more powerful stuff.

I would like to ask the esteemed TubeNet members what their experiences have been with Eb horns versus F horns. Is it really possible to save significant money? Or, does one have to pay about the same amount of money for quality regardless of key. All of those less than a thousand dollar tubas sure look tempting.

Allen Walker

funkcicle · Post by **funkcicle** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 8:57 pm

I played the St. Petersberg Eb (5 rotary valves) at Midwest in 2002 and really liked it. Just to be sure, I stuck around and listened to a handful of other people play it and I only liked the sound more. I don't know what you consider "cheap", but I think the sticker price on this horn is less than 3k. I've only played one other 5v/noncompensating Eb, the Yamaha 4+1 with upright pistons(under $3k used, sometimes under $2k), and personally I liked the St. Pete a lot more, though they're two very different horns.

Shockwave · Post by **Shockwave** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:13 pm

I have a a little old 1918 Besson Class A Eb tuba that plays very well in tune, sounds excellent, is agile, and is practically worthless. I think I paid $120 for it. It has a 14" bell and a .650 bore, but still sounds just a bit darker and more tuba-like than the similar size F tubas I've heard.

-Eric

docpugh · Post by **docpugh** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:05 pm

I had a Boosey and Hawkes that I played for a while. It was a nice little E-flat tuba. You may find a decent one used.

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:41 pm

A lot depends on what you are looking for. Eb tubas seem to be gaining in popularity as opposed to a few years ago. A really nice Eb is going to cost you as much as a comparable quality BBb, CC, F or whatever. Older schools are a good source for Eb tubas but you're probably not going to find anything very sophisticated. Kings, Conns, and Cuesnons are pretty common but finding something with more than three valves at a high school surplus sale is going to be rare.

DonShirer · Post by **DonShirer** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 9:46 am

I second the suggestion of a Yamaha YBE 321S. Good all-round instrument, but mouthpiece selection affects upper range intonation. Four valve instruments are a little more costly than the cheap 3-valvers you often see on EbBay, but my community band music often calls for the A flat below the staff that you just miss with 3 valves.
Don S.

Dean E · Post by **Dean E** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:24 pm

DonShirer wrote:I second the suggestion of a Yamaha YBE 321S. Good all-round instrument, but mouthpiece selection affects upper range intonation. Four valve instruments are a little more costly than the cheap 3-valvers you often see on EbBay, but my community band music often calls for the A flat below the staff that you just miss with 3 valves.
Don S.

I like to play that Ab below the staff as a privilege note on my 3-valve York Eb.